"tri band" (triple interface) router list

Hardware Questions and Recommendations
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can we have a list of triple+ wifi interface routers supported by openwrt?

these devices should have 3 full-featured interfaces, not 2 plus some crippled slow interface for DFS compliance.

help me build it! i'll start...

--------------- 2.4 / 5 GHz ---------------

Qualcomm IPQ4019 (4x ARM Cortex-A7 @ 717 MHz)

Linksys WHW03 V2

Flash 512 MB, RAM 512 MB.
https://openwrt.org/toh/linksys/whw03_v2

two 5 GHz radios with very limited channel support and no DFS.

channels (23.05.3 and previous builds):

  • 32: unsupported
  • 36 ~ 48: supported
  • 52 ~ 68: unsupported
  • 96 ~ 144: unsupported
  • 149 ~ 165: supported
  • 169 ~ 177: unsupported

EDIT: it seems that these devices should support the same channel ranges as the EA/MR8300 and that the restricted channel support is the result of a bug in the official openwrt port. i will try getting one of these devices to debug channel support.

EDIT: got the device and fixed the issue. the changes were accepted into the master and 23.05 branches, so all builds after 23.05.3 will support the usual channel ranges for these architecture.

channels (builds newer than and excluding 23.05.3):

  • 32: unsupported
  • 36 ~ 64: supported
  • 68: unsupported
  • 96: unsupported
  • 100 ~ 165: supported
  • 169 ~ 177: unsupported

Linksys EA8300 and MR8300

Flash 256 MB, RAM 256 MB.
https://openwrt.org/toh/linksys/ea8300
https://openwrt.org/toh/linksys/mr8300

Note: EA8250 and MR8250 seem to be versions of the routers above using the same hardware but with 256QAM modulation disabled by software.

two 5 GHz radios:

  • 32: unsupported
  • 36 ~ 64: supported
  • 68: unsupported
  • 96: unsupported
  • 100 ~ 165: supported
  • 169 ~ 177: unsupported

ASUS Lyra (MAP-AC2200)

Flash 128 MB, RAM 256 MB.
https://openwrt.org/toh/asus/lyra_map-ac2200

two 5 GHz radios:

  • 32: unsupported
  • 36 ~ 64: supported
  • 68: unsupported
  • 96: unsupported
  • 100 ~ 140: supported
  • 144 ~ 165: conflicting info (please help clarify)
  • 169 ~ 177: unsupported

NETGEAR RBR50 / RBS50

Flash 4 GB, RAM 512 MB.
https://openwrt.org/toh/hwdata/netgear/netgear_rbr50
https://openwrt.org/toh/hwdata/netgear/netgear_rbs50

GL.iNet GL-B2200

Flash 16 MB SPI + 8 GB eMMC, RAM 512 MB.
https://openwrt.org/toh/gl.inet/gl-b2200

two 5 GHz radios, channel support unknown. (help me!)

NETGEAR SRR60 / SRS60

Flash 4 GB, RAM 512 MB.
https://openwrt.org/toh/hwdata/netgear/netgear_srr60
https://openwrt.org/toh/hwdata/netgear/netgear_srs60

MediaTek MT7621AT (2x MIPS 24KC @ 880 MHz)

D-Link DIR-3060 A1

Flash 128 MB, RAM 256 MB.
https://openwrt.org/toh/d-link/dir-3060_a1

two 5 GHz radios, channel support unknown. (help me!)

Qualcomm IPQ8174 (4x ARM Cortex-A53 @ 1400 MHz)

Linksys Linksys MX4200 V1 and V2

Flash 512 MB, RAM 512 GB.
https://git.openwrt.org/?p=openwrt/openwrt.git;a=commit;h=46a2490e8f24a1ad47e53b0b4ee875fa3658f2c1

radios:

  • 5 GHz AX 2x2@80MHz / 2x2@160MHz channels ???
  • 5 GHz AX 4x4@80MHz / 2x2@160MHz channels ???
  • 2.4 GHz AX 2x2

Qualcomm IPQ8072A (4x ARM Cortex-A53 @ 2200 MHz)

Linksys MX5300

Flash 512 MB, RAM 1 GB.
https://git.openwrt.org/?p=openwrt/openwrt.git;a=commit;h=70fd815e57dc98cef88828faa5ce71717540e99e

radios:

  • 5 GHz AC 4x4 channels 100 ~ 169
  • 5 GHz AX 4x4 channels 36 ~ 64
  • 2.4 GHz AX 4x4

Xiaomi Mi Router AX9000

Flash 256 MB, RAM 1 GB.
https://openwrt.org/toh/xiaomi/ax9000

radios:

  • one 2.4 GHz (QCN9024 4×4 ax)
  • two 5 GHz (QCN5024 4×4 ax + QCN9024 2×2/4×4 ax)
  • one AIoT (QCA9889 1×1 ac/n)

partial support for this device currently exists in openwrt. among the issues, the QCN9024 low 5 GHz band radio does not work (there seems to be a workaround).

WARNING: some versions of this device ship with secure boot enabled, meaning you are not free to run the software you want on the device. while there might be loopholes for some bootloader versions, the intentions of xiaomi are clear. you might want to boycott this model because of this, if not xiaomi as a brand entirely.

it can be argued that secure boot, if correctly implemented, guards against persistent exploits of the router, just as it does for PCs and phones. however there is no reason to tolerate a company that locks secure boot down without allowing the device owner to disable it or customize the public key it uses to verify the boot chain. x86 PCs and respectable phones allow secure boot disabling (ie, bootloader unlocking) if confirmed by physical access to the device (such as typing on the terminal or pressing phone buttons). this precludes a software exploit from achieving the unlock, and thus invalidates the argument that locked down secure boot is required to improve security.

xiaomi has a history of locking down bootloaders to be able to sell geographically-restricted devices in china at cheaper prices than internationally (eg, its newer vacuum cleaners). in no case it allows bootloader unlocking by the owner of the device.

also, just like d-link, xiaomi violates the GPL by not providing source code of the GPL-licensed software they use, such as linux kernels and modifications done to them, just because no one is suing them. for this reason alone you might want to boycott these two companies.

--------------- 2.4 / 5 / 6 GHz ---------------

Qualcomm IPQ8072A (4x ARM Cortex-A53 @ 2200 MHz)

Linksys MX8500

Flash 512 MB, RAM 1 GB.
https://git.openwrt.org/?p=openwrt/openwrt.git;a=commit;h=9bdaebaff323e554046ce354092832c956b2ad5e

radios:

  • 6 GHz AX 4x4 channels 33 ~ 229
  • 5 GHz AX 4x4 channels 36 ~ 177
  • 2.4 GHz AX 4x4

has one 5 Gbps ethernet port.

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NETGEAR RBS50 / RBR50
NETGEAR SRS60 / SRR60
Asus Lyra MAP-AC2200

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thank you! added

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The EA8300's two 5GHz radios have non-overlapping coverage of the available spectrum.

In the US,

  • radio0: 100 104 108 112 116 120 124 128 132 136 140 144 149 153 157 161 165
  • radio2: 36 40 44 48 52 56 60 64
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Think the MAP-AC2200 goes to 165.

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5GHz regulations state that supported channels are 36 to 64, and 100 to 165. So it's not necessary to write such thing like "68 not supported".

MR8300 support 36 to 64 on ipq4019, and 100 to 165 on qca9886.

Detailed-5-GHz-Channel-Allocations
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thank you, added!

thanks. this conflicts with info in the wiki:

The first 5 GHz radio (IPQ4019) is limited to ch. 36-64. The second 5 GHz radio (QCA9886), is limited to ch. 100-140.

i still documented the conflict for now.

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AFAIK, channels 32, 68 and 96 are available for 20 MHz BW in most countries. channels 169 through 177 are sometimes available (eg, in the US).

source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_WLAN_channels

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But not the chips and their drivers.

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Agreed.
I have never seen this in any graphical chart, or as option in a menu.

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D Link dir-3060. 1x 2.4, 2x 5 ac

Added in v23. But some recent posts seem to point to still having some issues with stability (to be verified)

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thanks! added; hopefully someone will provide channel info.

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I think the Xiaomi AX9000 is valid for this list. 2x5Ghz AX interfaces + 1x2.4Ghz + 1xIoT. I don't have it, so I can't talk about stability or channels.

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thanks! added with warnings.

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Also add that Xiaomi violates the GPL license because it does not publish the source code of the Linux kernel :wink:

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done! thanks.

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I think Xiaomi Mi AIoT AX3600 also count?

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I wouldn't call the ax3600 a tri-band router, as the third AIoT radio (QCA9889) is not full featured but very slow (especially compared to the 4x4 802.11ax main radios), being 1x1 802.11ac (dual-band, but not concurrent dual-band) based.

The ax9000 would be, with two main 4x4 802.11ax 5 GHz (lower- and upper 5 GHz band), a third 2.4 GHz radio - and yet again another (fourth-) AIoT radio (QCA9889, 1x1 802.11ac (dual-band, but not concurrent dual-band) radio.

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This obviously is a matter of perspective, to some extent.

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from the OP: "these devices should have 3 full-featured interfaces".

as explained, the AX3600 has an extra virtually useless second-class 1x1 interface, so it does not qualify for this list.

in general these extra interfaces typically have crappy antennas and are connected to the cpu via cripplingly slow buses such as SDIO instead of PCIe.

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