don't mention stock firmware again, its worse than openwrt
you can't mesh properly without a tp-link router
you can only setup repeater, which has MAC address spoofing making device disconnect for up to 30 seconds when roaming
OpenWRT on 1/2 devices cannot improve your setup? Are we good now?
if what @LilRedDog is possible, and it works then we can let this thread die
Sorry to everyone here, if I truly didn't think this was possible I would have given up by now, but surly I get wireless 200Mbps repeater around 10-15 metres away
You can think what you like. It's not possible given your current equipment and environment. This has been gone over time and time again.
We cannot assist you any further. I have requested this thread be closed to stop wasting more of anyone's (including your's) time. It'd be easier though if you just accepted the reality of the situation and gave up trying to achieve the unachievable.
how so, there was never nothing I didn't understand
openwrt can act as a repeater from any device right
sound like a possible solution there
I am not going to let that happen, I am the OP, it should be up to me when its closed
You have been told numerous times that what you want to achieve is not possible wirelessly and that the only viable solution for that kind of performance is to pull ethernet cables or use a very high end powerline adapter (which may or may not actually work, depending on the quality and noise levels of your home's wiring).
Please explain what is different about this attempt that the literal 14 other threads you have created previously.
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@LilRedDog Please private message me if this is possible and this thread gets closed
because it seems like this thread will be closed
I should have done more research
you can assist me further @krazeh
stop trying to close this for no reason
I have had previous experiance with @LilRedDog @frollic @psherman
they know I have tried many times
even got myself banned, for trying so hard
I would prefer for everyone to calm down and see if the responce from @LilRedDog will work
thank you to @brada4 for trying though
I will now wait to see what happens with this thread
maybe it will work, maybe it won't we will never know if we don't try
I need a few hours break
sorry this is long, I always do this don't I
so why did @LilRedDog say I can do something
It was hard to get speed for the router from the modern over powerline, but I got it working
what 14 attempts, I didn't realize I am so sorry its that many, I remember around 4
honestly I have no idea why I did this again nothing has changed but do we have a solution, maybe we do this time
its been since end of February maybe start of March since my last thread
Please can I have one more try without it being closed are a solution being put in place for me
I don't like how that is a thing here, I should say the solution and only then it should be closed
this is really long isn't it, I can't stop myself
Sorry again, but I think we might have a solution
So are you saying that you have a power-line adapter that can provide the desired bandwidth?
Please verify this by plugging a computer into the powerline adapter via ethernet and running a test -- report the speeds to us.
I'm still skeptical that the RE305 can possibly reach the speeds you want, but at least if you have an ethernet/powerline backhaul, you won't be dealing with WDS/relayd along with the physics of wireless signals.
Yes but the port is only 100Mbps on the RE305 and I would need to buy another point to it
the modern to router link is currently on that powerline and getting 190-200Mbps
I don't know how much money a single powerline node is, but this is yes a possible backup solution
currently its modern - powerline - router
but I could do modern - router - powerline-1(router) - - - powerline-2(switch) - AP-1
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powerline-3
(AP-2(RE305/second RE450))
but then would the powerline drop to half speed as its shared from one point
So how did you ever expect to get faster than 100Mbps with this device (reality will be around 94Mbps max)?
Great. Consider this the max possible speed you can achieve.
Now get a new AP that can support those speeds (must have a gigabit ethernet port as a start).
As for powerline, I don't know. I've never used or researched them, so I don't know if they suffer this same issue, although my intuition would say yes, it would be a problem, at least when both devices are actively trying to move lots of data at the same time, because they are on a shared medium (not switched like modern ethernet).
though wireless might be able to go faster
its 1200 over wireless
thats something to ask tp-link about then
but if that is the case I either run two separate powerline networks which will properly cause interference with each other or try to get the RE305 working
do you know anything about
I did a quick search and seen using 5GHz and 2.4GHz as 2.4GHz only
is that true or is that a solution to try
No, we've been through this. 1200Mbps is first and foremost a marketing number where they combine the 2.4G and 5G values. You'll never ever see this type of performance because it's not how this generation of wifi works. The "real" values are 300Mbps for 2.4G and 867Mbps for 5G. These values represent the best case scenario link rate, but not the actual throughput. Starting with the "best case scenario" -- that would be in situations where the two devices involved in the connection are in relatively close proximity (say within a few meters), line of sight, and with minimal noise/interference. Performance will rapidly degrade as a function of distance, walls, and other noise/interference in the area. Even in the best case scenario, I think the highest throughput is ~2/3 the link rate... so that would be 200Mbps/600Mbps assuming that the link rate was optimal (and again, this is best case scenario, which you do not have because of distance and walls). That is before adding WDS and/or other 'repeater' techniques on a 2 radio device, which will often halve the speed, so 100/300 in a pretty best case scenario. Adjust down to account for physics, and you'll find that you simply will not be able to get the speeds you want. Period.
Powerline is probably your better bet here.
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yes I remember now but its still 300Mbps on the 2.4GHz and 867Mbps on the 5GHz, that adds up to 1167 not 1200Mbps
I did actually forget until you reminded me, it even makes it clear on the box
Sorry, that information clearly was not important enough for me to remember
I know its the maximum capable speed in best case
I have line of sight here, but there is a lot of interference
so 200Mbps, exactly I am not mad then, thinking this should work
wrong 10-15 metres of air
I said I needed the RE305 near the outside wall for coverage outside
the only thing between the RE450 and RE305 is an open door and stud wall
but the RE450 and RE305 are in line with the door
so just to be clear is the speed reserved for both radios
so for example 200 comes in on the STA 100 goes to 2.4 GHz AP and 100 goes to 5 GHz AP
am I right here
but if STA is around 300Mbps(that's the worst I have seen)
should it be 150 between them or is that relayd causing that drop
relayd does not seem to be using the whole CPU either
there was free RAM too
it can push the RE305 harder that it does
and all the issue I have had with that, that nobody knows about here
and adding another point like we have both said could reduce the speed to half
and two separate network was cause interference and neither will be 200Mbps
do you know anything about what @LilRedDog said please
it sounded like a possible solution
I would be happy with anything over 150Mbps
Sorry if that sounds like i'm annoyed, its been a long day
wouldn't what @LilRedDog said be to use the 5GHz are the STA and the 2.4GHz as the AP, that all I can think of
you can't set them both to 5GHz can you?
I'm not putting in more effort than you; which has been minimal and "that can't work" at best.
It is is the manual for your device. Find it online and follow its instructions.
IOW: RTFM.
If it does not meet your needs, you are back to new equipment.
Think of your RF environment as a room with a lot of people (maybe during a party)... if there are many individual conversations happening, the volume level in the room may be fairly high and it can become difficult to hear an individual person even though you may be standing right next to them. I'm sure you've experienced this in real life. And you know that it can be even harder to hear if you're across the room -- so maybe you see 2 other friends talking from 10m away. You may be able to hear a few individual words here and there, but it would be difficult to really follow their conversation.
Noise/interference in RF is the same principle. That will significantly reduce the available bandwidth.
That would be true in close range with no interference, and that was just a rough estimate.
Are you familiar with the inverse-square law? 10-15m is not far, but it is compared to 1m. For every doubling of distance, your signal strenght goes down by a factor of 4. So when compared to 1m away, your signal at ~15m is 1/64th the strength at 1m. And your speed will suffer.
Those are still obstacles from the perspective of RF. Let's use an example... imagine that you have a lamp at the location of the main unit. Even though you may be able to see the light through the open door, the intensity of the light in the area around your RE305 is going to be pretty low because it is far away from the RE450 (where the light is located) and only the light that goes through the door will hit the RE305. Yes, radio waves can penetrate walls (unlike visible light), but it is significantly attenuated.
No, that's not how it works.
CPU is not a factor here. Physics is. The comment about your CPU not being maxed out is irrelevant in your situation. Just because you have more CPU headroom doesn't mean you can go faster. It's like being in a very fast car while stuck in a traffic jam... sure, you've got the power in your engine/motor to go faster than most other cars on the road, but you've got nowhere to go because of all the traffic.
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Sorry what have I done to you for you to be like this with me
I am not good with abbreviations but I think that says
in other words read the f*cking manual
I didn't know there was an openwrt manual for RE305
would have been nice for you to tell me in a better manner
I definitely have not heard that before
this is what I don't get though, put my phone in the same place and its fine
so explain it to me
but everyone here says the RE305 is the issue
the hardware sucks apparently
everyone is saying different things here
the fact wireless signals travel down better than up should be helping here as well, as ever other AP/router is downstairs in neighbors houses, I know because we are the only house on the street with fibre, so everyone else uses the BT/openreach phone socket, which is normally in the front room in most houses
both my APs are upstairs and every signal picked up is weak
except for one and its a 5GHz so it must be the attached house, this is semi-detached
anyway lets just and find the openwrt manual