Hey,
Does the OpenWrt One have CE certification? I cant see it on the box or the device itself, just the charger
I'm not trolling but are you are able to sell something nowadays without CE?!
Ye i have seen that tread but shouldn't the box or the product then have the CE logo?
Well, this router i cant seem to find in Europe and had to get it from China so thats why im a bit extra vigilant about it
Even if there's a CE logo, it might just as well be the "China Export" one, they're (intentionally) almost identical, only the spacing's different.
Found on BananaPi site.
The is no really no "China Export" logo.
The spacing is irrelevant.
The EU has some kind of "service", to put a picture of the logo on their site.
But some hardware vendors are to lazy to use this.
Now for the starters ...
Every company can put a CE logo on their box.
The CEO or whatever can sign for this on their papers an sell the products.
But if the company doesn't test this device this is a fraud
Some areas require a "notified body" , i.e medicine, for the CE logo.
If you see a four digit number near the logo, this is the notified body.
There is, but it doesn't really say/mean anything, which is the whole point; to confuse.
Some random sites where I found info about it using Google https://www.kimuagroup.com/news/differences-between-ce-and-china-export-markings/
https://www.hqts.com/differences-between-ce-conformite-europeenne-and-ce-china-export/
Pretty sure it doesn't apply to the CN CEOs, since they don't care.
Please read ...
Self-certification
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Depending on the level of risk of the product, the CE marking is affixed to a product by the manufacturer or authorized representative who needs to ensure that the product meets all the CE marking requirements. In some cases, if a product has minimal risk, it can be self-certified by a manufacturer making a declaration of conformity and affixing the CE marking to their own product. Self-certification exists only for products that have a minimal risk for their use, and this is clearly foreseen in the relevant directive and regulation according to the product "category". In order to certify, the manufacturer must do several things
This is the "CEO" Case
"China Export" myth
See also: Backronym and China Compulsory Certificate
Comparison of a CE mark and an alleged "China Export" mark
In 2008, a logo very similar to CE marking was alleged to exist and to stand for China Export because some Chinese manufacturers apply it to their products.[28] However, the European Commission says that this is a misconception.[9] The matter was raised at the European Parliament in 2008.[8] The Commission responded that it was unaware of the existence of any "Chinese Export" mark and that, in its view, the misunderstanding had arisen because a producer had failed to respect the precise dimensions and proportions of the mark as prescribed in the legislation.[9] The Commission was also aware of fraudulent misuse of the mark on products that did not comply with the standards, but that this is a separate issue.[9] It had initiated the procedure to register CE marking as a Community collective trademark, and was in discussion with Chinese authorities to ensure compliance with EU legislation.[9] Chinese (and other non-EU) manufacturers are permitted to use the CE mark provided that the goods have been manufactured in accordance with the relevant EU directives and regulations.[9]
Nevertheless, and despite the Commission's assurance that it is without foundation, this urban myth continues to propagate on many websites.[29]
And now the fun part ...
If you assemble some random product, with parts from other vendors, which there are (verified) to comply against CE (with papers)
You, as a seller/vendor/whatever, are obligated to do a new certification of your "assembled product"
This was 40 years ago, I think.
Some side notes.
If someone lives in Germany and uses a service called "repair cafe", for their electrical appliances ...
As a professional electrician in really big energy business, I advise you, please don't use them.
There is a loophole, every insurance company likes
I read that article, but since it's Wikipedia you can't be sure it's correct.
But it obviously applies to any info you find on internet, my links included.
SE customs' Instagram account, 2.5 yr ago, "Can you spot the difference (EU CE vs CN CE)? Compare, spread the knowledge.".
https://www.instagram.com/p/CzvEgZIJVTv/
Customs ...
Maybe journalists, with no technical background.
Now we go to the real platform Lex Europe
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/reg/2008/765/oj/eng
Section 3 Article 27, paragraph 3
- The authorities in charge of external border controls shall suspend release of a product for free circulation on the Community market when any of the following findings are made in the course of the checks referred to in paragraph 1:
(a)
the product displays characteristics which give cause to believe that the product, when properly installed, maintained and used, presents a serious risk to health, safety, the environment or any other public interest referred to in Article 1;
(b)
the product is not accompanied by the written or electronic documentation required by the relevant Community harmonisation legislation or is not marked in accordance with that legislation;
(c)
the CE marking has been affixed to the product in a false or misleading manner.
The authorities in charge of external border controls shall immediately notify the market surveillance authorities of any such suspension.
(c) is here the "China Export" legend, nobody understands ...
Another fun part
Anywhere in the EU.
If you buy a product, as a private person within the EU, with a false or misleading CE marking and sell them afterwards (because you don't need this) ..
you are (automagically) the importer/distributor (Article 2, section 5/6), with a false or misleading CE marking.
and now somebody dies because of your product ...