JW0914 wrote:RickStep wrote:JW0914 wrote:... also, the timing is sporadic. All ping requests to the router (in a home environment a tleast) should return in <1ms, and my pings are coming back at 2ms. Not a huge difference, but indicative of an issue somewhere.
Me thinks that you are chasing a phantom!
I'm in Hamilton, ON, Canada and Internet access to Toronto and Chicago is 13ms.
You are worried about a change from 1ms to 2ms.
1. How many decimal places does this go out to.
2. IF only to a whole number; 1.0, 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, 1.4: is 1 and 1.5, 1.6, 1.7, 1.8, 1.9 becomes 2.
3. Simply 1.4 could vary to 1.6 and register from 1 - 2.
What astounds me is that over a home network that you are chasing phantoms in milliseconds; 1 - 2 when there are more serious issues here. WHO CARES.
This thread has people chasing whether they can get 300MBs vs. 550MBs vs. 900MBs; WHO cares about the numbers IF THE DATA CAN'T EVER BE USED (PROCESSED) THAT FAST.
Can this board get to some speed realities relative to an HD movie at 5MBs time 10 household members + to 50MBs and worrying if the maximum download can actually approach 1GBs.
Why are we chasing CRAP!
This younger generation of ours is going a MILE A MINUTE on the highways; at grocery checkouts; at the BEER store; in the parking lot; BECAUSE 1 - 2ms (a difference of 0.001 seconds) really, really, really, really MATTERS.
IF the computer is doing a security scan; scheduled a download; etc.; 1ms is an absolute garbage number!
EDIT 1: corrected spelling minute.
I think you misunderstood my post and simply glanced at it, not reading it...
You're talking about WAN pinging (i.e. pinging a website)... My post was about specific issues with the 5ghz radio and pinging the LAN address of the router.
In a home environment, all pings to your router's LAN address should return in under 1ms (this is due to a number of factors, most important of which being the length electrons have to travel are <50' @ 2.993km/ms). This isn't about performance, and I could personally care less... this is about major issues I've been experiencing with the 5gHz radio. When a ping to the LAN of the router takes at least 3x longer than normal, COUPLED with the 5gHz radio issues and packet loss at and above 50%, it is indicative of a problem where all are related.
EDIT
Please confine your ranting to other sites, or create your own thread to rant in... not only is it rude and unbecoming, it's simply a waste of everyone's time. (This isn't the first time you've ranted in this thread, and if it happens a third time, I'll simply report your post and ask for it to be deleted.)
I've edited my post to:
RickStep wrote:JW0914 wrote:... also, the timing is sporadic. All ping requests to the router (in a home environment a tleast) should return in <1ms, and my pings are coming back at 2ms. Not a huge difference, but indicative of an issue somewhere.
Me thinks that you are chasing a phantom!
Going from 1ms to 2ms is indicative of nothing.
Rick S
This post has been edited to be less of an ass on my part.
No disrespect to JW0914
Rick
Perlaps I was a little over the top.
I do, however, stand by the 2ms is a phantom.
I have edited my original post to clear up any confusion.
Let me start here. This household has:
1 - D-Link DNS-323 NAS box running RAID 1 with 2 1TB drives Wired
1 - D-Link DNS-323 NAS box running RAID 1 with 2 2 TB drives Wired
1 - D-Link DNS-343 NAS box running RAID 5 with 4 1TB drives Wired
1 - D-Link DNS-343 NAS box running Raid 5 with 4 2 TB drives Wired
1 - D-Link DNS-345 NAS box running Raid 5 with 4 2 TB drives. Wired
2 - HP dc7900 desktops on 1 GB Ethernet (Windows 7 Pro) Wired
1 - Sony BluRay player 100 MB LAN (Netflix) Wired
1 - Samsung Smart TV UN46C6800UF with 100 MB LAN (NETFLIX) Wired
1 - Dell 3010cn Colour Laser printer 100 MB LAN Wired
1 - HP dc7900 desktop on a D-Link DWA-160 v2 wireless USB adapter running 802.11n 5GHz (Windows 8.1 Pro)
1 - Surface Pro 3 - 802.11n 5GHz (Windows 8.1 Home)
1 - Dell Inspiron 15 (5000 series) - 802.11n 5GHz (Windows 8.1 Home)
1 - Dell HP Pavillion 15-n232nr - 802.11 n 2.4GHz (windows 8.1 Home)
1 - ACER 7250-BZ600 802.11n 2.4GHz (Windows 7 Home)
1 - HP Pavilion dm1-4123c 802.11n 5GHz (Windows 7 Home)
1 - Dell Studio 1735 802.11g 2.4GHz (Windows XP)
2 - Blackberry Z10 5GHz
1 - Blackberry z30 5GHz
1 - Blackberry Q5 5GHz
3 - Android Smart phones (1 Samsung & 2 Google (LG phones) 5GHz
1 - Apple iPad mini 2, 802.11n 5GHz
All wired devices when I tested pinged at 1ms with an average over 4 pings at 0ms.
When I tested the new 5GHz laptop devices; of the 4 tests under Windows 7 Pro; 3 mostly (3 out of 4) came in at 1ms but the 4th came in at 2ms and a small number at 3ms. As far as I know I am the only one in my neighbiurhood using 5GHz. There are, however a number of 5GHz cordless phones around here. Our old 2007 cordless phones utilized the the 5GHz band and were replaced earlier this year with Dect 6.0 phones which utilize the 1.9GHz band. There are about 30 2.4GHz users around here (10 - 12 at any given time; students & Starbucks) and the 2.4GHz band is crap.
My earlier point and my point now is that going from 1ms to 2ms on a wireless band tells us absoulutely nothing because we don't know what interference may be lurking in the air; unless all of your devices are wired.
Interestingly enough, pinging to my Z30 gave the following, 57ms, 167ms, 193ms & 219ms.
Second set 92ms, 257ms, 128ms & 255ms.
An iPad mini 41ms, 166ms, 192ms & 220ms. The BB & iPad mini 2 connect to the WRT1900AC
The best ping times are on a 7 year old HP desktop with Windows 7 using a D-Link wireless DWA-160 v2 USB adapter on 802.11n 5GHz.
1ms, 1ms, 2ms. 1ms or 1ms, 1ms, 1ms, 3ms; etc.
The laptops weren't quite as good. It may have been the location in the house. I never tried to re-locate the laptops to see if there were better numbers.
Rick S
(Last edited by RickStep on 2 Jul 2015, 02:04)