OpenWrt One - Performance and experience

NO, it needs the linksys MAC address to work, I have my isp router configured as "bridge", I guess I can reset it and then configure it back again to bridge mode so it takes the ONE router original MAC address?

Yeah, I try another Mac address (I have a second Linksys router laying around) but it needs the original Mac address I configured my isp router in bridge mode with, so maybe reconfigure the bridge mode but now with the ONE's Mac address could work?

Ah, in this case you restart the bridged-modem and it will happily accept a new MAC address in a short timewindow after restart... that is typical for DOCSIS/cable...

But that means your tests with the OpenWrt One have always used the same WAM MAC address as the Linksys? That would bury the theory that your ISPs differentiates based on MAC for good.

These exist now, and hence are not grayed out in the device page in luci, but they carry no options, so I am puzzled why this should affect the latency/jitter through your router in any meaningful way...

Ok, what can I say?

I reconfigured my isp router that is fiber with encapsulation mode IPoE, binding to LAN1, like this

I'd run a couple of hundreds test and NOO, it needs the Linksys Mac Address to have a better latency

I lost track...
so you get decent RTTs wehen using the Linksys MAC address (independent on whether you use the Linksys or the One as router) and higher RTTs with any other MAC address you tried?

And you are not using a cable/docsis link but a real fiber to the home link? And the ISP fiber router is always in bridge mode?

yes, exactly that, the fiber cable reach directly to my ISP gpon router that is then connected through a 13-15 inch cat6 cable to my Openwrt One router then to my computer through a 40-44 inch cat6 ethernet

yesterday, I tested some just for the "fun" of it, I cloned my second linksys Mac address to the Lan port of the One router, in other words, the One router is using one linksys mac address in the "wan" port and another linksys mac address in the "lan" port, and played a few games, and what I noticed is that, if you remember me saying before, the latency was kept under 40, but haven't played more yet to have an actual "real" results for this statement

Changing the MAC on the wan interface at least theoretically might change things, as the ISP gateway or even the upsteam OLT might actually see this MAC address. Changing the LAN MAC address should have no selective effect on internet latency.
Look I am all for exploring things and empiric testing, yet I think it makes some sense to also develop a theory what to expect to guide such exploration. So why do you think changing the LAN side MAC should affect latency?

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I honestly don't know, I know that the wan port MAC address will be visible to the ISP as that port is the one getting the external IP address directly, but don't know if the LAN port will be visible to them too, but I could/would understand that the linksys router was the first one router I ever set my ISP's modem in bridge mode so the MAC address would've registered at first glance and being expected to show up at the ISP server in order for a IP to be handed out

But the LAN interface's part will not make any sense or would it?

I will need to keep running some more test with and without the LAN mac address to have a valid set of data to even backup a theory about it

No, all your packets leaving the One's WAN port will carry the WAN interface's MAC address (you can use tcpdump on the One to capture wan traffic and confirm this).

I have no good theory haw this would have an effect unless the One is broken or you created any special rules (firewall or tc) using the linksys LAN MAC address.

Sure, but my theory is, this should have no effect on the wan RTT what so ever. No harm in confirming that though, as things could be broken.

I guess this counts as experience too ...
I just received my OpenWrt One and the box itself is just pure awesomeness.
Including a written offer to obtain the source code via a physical medium :heart_eyes:

This is likely the best first impression I've ever had. Well done :+1:

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Oh yeah, I know that, but I meant to say that, If somehow the ISP would have access to my One router, or maybe the One router handing over info like all the Mac addresses and ports count maybe, which I don't think so, but could've happened?

I have another theory but is a long shot and it really doesn't make any sense as it should've been registered the original One Mac Address, the only thing that makes sense is that I'd first set the linksys router behind the bridge mode, and everything after that just doesn't make sense, but I will test...

Ok, I think I got enough data, so it is a NO, Linksys Mac address in the LAN interface makes NO difference BUT it does in the WAN interface and this can be replicated every single time, with and without a linksys Mac Address

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Hi all.
I bought and installed the Openwrt One and it runs fine.
But still a bit disappointed because it still doesn't open certain android apps properly, still extremely slow.
Wifi-6 is still a lot less than Wifi-7.
So OpenWrt on to number Two with Wifi-7.
Regards,
Lucas

What apps exactly, and why does the perceived performance of those apps depend on the router?

Numerically the difference is just 1 ;)...

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Hi,

Thx for the messages.
My message is not correct, I think. The wifi of my ISP is wifi6, I thought it was wifi7, but it is not. The ISP modem is a Sagemcom Model: F3896LG-ZG. The wifi6 is perfect. The wifi6 of my openwrt one is a lot less. I assume that the ISP modem is more powerful. Maybe I can make my openwrt one also more powerful?
It is now set to 20 dBm (100 mW). Is that possible?

Regards, Lucas

On my Android mobile Dutch news apps like AD, VK or RTL-NIEUWS open slowly with the Openwrt wifi-6. If I switch to my ISP wifi-6 then opening goes fast. That's why I think the Openwrt One wifirouter needs to be improved. Possibly by adjusting the settings.

Regards, Lucas

Well could you run a speedtest over both WiFi links and post screenshots of the full the results here, please?

Also could you check which channels/bands you selected in both routers?