If I knew that we wouldn't be having this issue
Is this the only board with this problem?
Only one I know of, even the AX3600 doesnt have this issue
Can we try to use any other BDF extracted from the firmware?
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fef15e1cd66099ba2c1c36d0941e843b3ff470d63e467e1a6a4bab342585c8fa bdwlan.rt5010w_rev3
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Which firmware, reg domain and channel are you using for 5GHz?
For me using PA and channel 44 (the best one in terms of output power), I'm limited to 26dbm when using 2.9.x branch firmwares.
Using 2.7.x or older gives me 28dbm on both 5GHz and 2.4GHz, which are still both below the reg domain's but higher than 2.9.x.
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Not really as its model specific
I'm on snapshot SNAPSHOT r23900-7f54d9ba1a, WLAN.HK.2.9.0.1-01862-QCAHKSWPL_SILICONZ-1, country code US, channel 157 or 161 with power at 29dBm. So far I'm very happy with the coverage as I see a stronger signal on the 5GHz band than my R7800. 5.5 days of uptime and a few more clients have been migrated over from my previous router, everything is stable so far.
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I checked the BDF_20210412.bin file. Both radios work but the same problem still occurs.
Comparing binary files there are few differences:
Could this be a previous BDF version for this board?
I got no idea, I used the BDF that stock FW is using, and there will be differences since regulatory data was updated
I am comparing the original file.
The GoldenBin_20210323.bin BDF file also works. And in this case the dBm values are different:
- US
root@OpenWrt:~# iw reg get
global
country US: DFS-FCC
(902 - 904 @ 2), (N/A, 30), (N/A)
(904 - 920 @ 16), (N/A, 30), (N/A)
(920 - 928 @ 8), (N/A, 30), (N/A)
(2400 - 2472 @ 40), (N/A, 30), (N/A)
(5150 - 5250 @ 80), (N/A, 23), (N/A), AUTO-BW
(5250 - 5350 @ 80), (N/A, 24), (0 ms), DFS, AUTO-BW
(5470 - 5730 @ 160), (N/A, 24), (0 ms), DFS
(5730 - 5850 @ 80), (N/A, 30), (N/A), AUTO-BW
(5850 - 5895 @ 40), (N/A, 27), (N/A), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW, PASSIVE-SCAN
(5925 - 7125 @ 320), (N/A, 12), (N/A), NO-OUTDOOR, PASSIVE-SCAN
(57240 - 71000 @ 2160), (N/A, 40), (N/A)
phy#1 (self-managed)
country US: DFS-FCC
(2402 - 2472 @ 40), (6, 30), (N/A)
(5170 - 5250 @ 80), (6, 30), (N/A), AUTO-BW
(5250 - 5330 @ 80), (6, 24), (0 ms), DFS, AUTO-BW
(5490 - 5730 @ 160), (6, 24), (0 ms), DFS, AUTO-BW
(5735 - 5835 @ 80), (6, 30), (N/A), AUTO-BW
phy#0 (self-managed)
country US: DFS-FCC
(2402 - 2472 @ 40), (6, 30), (N/A)
(5170 - 5250 @ 80), (6, 30), (N/A), AUTO-BW
(5250 - 5330 @ 80), (6, 24), (0 ms), DFS, AUTO-BW
(5490 - 5730 @ 160), (6, 24), (0 ms), DFS, AUTO-BW
(5735 - 5835 @ 80), (6, 30), (N/A), AUTO-BW
root@OpenWrt:~# iwinfo
phy0-ap0 ESSID: "xxx"
Access Point: ***
Mode: Master Channel: 36 (5.180 GHz) HT Mode: HE80
Center Channel 1: 42 2: unknown
Tx-Power: 28 dBm Link Quality: unknown/70
Signal: unknown Noise: -110 dBm
Bit Rate: unknown
Encryption: WPA2 PSK (CCMP)
Type: nl80211 HW Mode(s): 802.11ac/ax/n
Hardware: embedded [Qualcomm Atheros IPQ8074]
TX power offset: none
Frequency offset: none
Supports VAPs: yes PHY name: phy0
phy1-ap0 ESSID: "xxx"
Access Point: ***
Mode: Master Channel: 11 (2.462 GHz) HT Mode: HE20
Center Channel 1: 11 2: unknown
Tx-Power: 30 dBm Link Quality: unknown/70
Signal: unknown Noise: -106 dBm
Bit Rate: unknown
Encryption: WPA2 PSK (CCMP)
Type: nl80211 HW Mode(s): 802.11ax/b/g/n
Hardware: embedded [Qualcomm Atheros IPQ8074]
TX power offset: none
Frequency offset: none
Supports VAPs: yes PHY name: phy1
- DE
root@OpenWrt:~# iw reg get
global
country DE: DFS-ETSI
(2400 - 2483 @ 40), (N/A, 20), (N/A)
(5150 - 5250 @ 80), (N/A, 23), (N/A), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW
(5250 - 5350 @ 80), (N/A, 20), (0 ms), NO-OUTDOOR, DFS, AUTO-BW
(5470 - 5725 @ 160), (N/A, 26), (0 ms), DFS
(5725 - 5875 @ 80), (N/A, 13), (N/A)
(5945 - 6425 @ 160), (N/A, 23), (N/A), NO-OUTDOOR
(57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (N/A, 40), (N/A)
phy#1 (self-managed)
country DE: DFS-ETSI
(2402 - 2482 @ 40), (N/A, 20), (N/A)
(5170 - 5250 @ 80), (N/A, 23), (N/A), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW
(5250 - 5330 @ 80), (N/A, 23), (0 ms), NO-OUTDOOR, DFS, AUTO-BW
(5490 - 5590 @ 80), (N/A, 30), (0 ms), DFS, AUTO-BW
(5590 - 5650 @ 40), (N/A, 30), (600000 ms), DFS, AUTO-BW
(5650 - 5710 @ 40), (N/A, 30), (0 ms), DFS, AUTO-BW
phy#0 (self-managed)
country DE: DFS-ETSI
(2402 - 2482 @ 40), (N/A, 20), (N/A)
(5170 - 5250 @ 80), (N/A, 23), (N/A), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW
(5250 - 5330 @ 80), (N/A, 23), (0 ms), NO-OUTDOOR, DFS, AUTO-BW
(5490 - 5590 @ 80), (N/A, 30), (0 ms), DFS, AUTO-BW
(5590 - 5650 @ 40), (N/A, 30), (600000 ms), DFS, AUTO-BW
(5650 - 5710 @ 40), (N/A, 30), (0 ms), DFS, AUTO-BW
root@OpenWrt:~# iwinfo
phy0-ap0 ESSID: "xxx"
Access Point: ***
Mode: Master Channel: 36 (5.180 GHz) HT Mode: HE80
Center Channel 1: 42 2: unknown
Tx-Power: 19 dBm Link Quality: 65/70
Signal: -45 dBm Noise: -110 dBm
Bit Rate: 1200.9 MBit/s
Encryption: WPA2 PSK (CCMP)
Type: nl80211 HW Mode(s): 802.11ac/ax/n
Hardware: embedded [Qualcomm Atheros IPQ8074]
TX power offset: none
Frequency offset: none
Supports VAPs: yes PHY name: phy0
phy1-ap0 ESSID: "xxx"
Access Point: ***
Mode: Master Channel: 11 (2.462 GHz) HT Mode: HE20
Center Channel 1: 11 2: unknown
Tx-Power: 16 dBm Link Quality: unknown/70
Signal: unknown Noise: -106 dBm
Bit Rate: unknown
Encryption: WPA2 PSK (CCMP)
Type: nl80211 HW Mode(s): 802.11ax/b/g/n
Hardware: embedded [Qualcomm Atheros IPQ8074]
TX power offset: none
Frequency offset: none
Supports VAPs: yes PHY name: phy1
My WRX36 also sits on a shelf waiting for ath11k drivers to mature. Wifi performance was way to erratic for me, though I haven't tested a new build on it in a few months, so perhaps firmware/drivers have improved as of late. Go for a mediatek router if you want to replace r7800 with wifi6. If memory serves, I believe the r7800 has better 2.4 ghz range than the belkin devices, at least that was my impression when I compared the two a while back. Now, I have two, an e8450 and an rt3200, and they work flawlessly. Decent range and speed. Dozens of clients connected. It just works.
As of latest snapshot r23939 builds (+ luci, sqm):
wan speed: r7800 > wax206 > wrx36
wan latency: wax206 > r7800 > wrx36
wlan perf.: r7800 > wax206 ~ wrx36
wifi range: wrx36 > r7800 ~ wax206
How did you replace the BDF? It looks enticing and it seems to be taking the regs' power to the letter.
Package with another board-2.bin: https://easyupload.io/yl1wa0
The difference is 3 dBm for US and 1 dBm for DE in 5G radio. It's still not full power.
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That package seems to be cooperating better with more modern (2.9.x branch) firmwares, as it's allowing me now 30dbm on 2.4GHz and 28dbm on 5GHz, PA domain. Nice work!
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The BDF also has the radio calibration, with the wrong calibration the radio can work worst.
You need to test if the higher (or same) Tx power from a different BDF gives same/worst (iperf3) speed at some distance, when compared to the factory BDF.
When I tried that:
https://forum.openwrt.org/t/dynalink-dl-wrx36-askey-rt5010w-ipq8072a-technical-discussion/110454/1655
How did you saw that the factory dynalink FW uses 30dB Tx power?
I switched to openwrt when my router arrived and didn't test dynalink FW, but I see in the pdf manual that the Tx power is measured in 25%, 50%, 75%, 100% (in the web gui), so I always wonder what was the real Tx power in factory FW.
These three BDF files (rt5010w-d350_rev0.bin, BDF_20210412.bin and GoldenBin_20210323.bin) are not very different from each other compared to the others inside the firmware.
Binary comparison:
iperf3 result (HE80) on GoldenBin_20210323.bin BDF:
Connecting to host 192.168.1.1, port 5201
[ 5] local 192.168.1.183 port 48776 connected to 192.168.1.1 port 5201
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bitrate Retr Cwnd
[ 5] 0.00-1.00 sec 108 MBytes 903 Mbits/sec 0 3.06 MBytes
[ 5] 1.00-2.00 sec 111 MBytes 933 Mbits/sec 0 3.06 MBytes
[ 5] 2.00-3.00 sec 105 MBytes 881 Mbits/sec 0 3.06 MBytes
[ 5] 3.00-4.00 sec 110 MBytes 923 Mbits/sec 0 3.06 MBytes
[ 5] 4.00-5.00 sec 114 MBytes 954 Mbits/sec 0 3.06 MBytes
[ 5] 5.00-6.00 sec 112 MBytes 944 Mbits/sec 0 3.06 MBytes
[ 5] 6.00-7.00 sec 108 MBytes 902 Mbits/sec 0 3.06 MBytes
[ 5] 7.00-8.00 sec 111 MBytes 933 Mbits/sec 0 3.06 MBytes
[ 5] 8.00-9.00 sec 108 MBytes 902 Mbits/sec 0 3.06 MBytes
[ 5] 9.00-10.00 sec 114 MBytes 954 Mbits/sec 0 3.06 MBytes
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bitrate Retr
[ 5] 0.00-10.00 sec 1.07 GBytes 923 Mbits/sec 0 sender
[ 5] 0.00-10.01 sec 1.07 GBytes 920 Mbits/sec receiver
iperf Done.
In the factory firmware, the AP reports txpower. This can be read using the WIFIman app. I also checked it directly on the router. And from what I remember, the dBm values were correct.
@Ansuel @robimarko Are you able to say anything more about these three BDF files?
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Is it faster than the openwrt BDF at same distance?
Was this in the next room?
The test is sending data to the router or receiving from it?
Two wall test:
rt5010w-d350_rev0.bin
Connecting to host 192.168.1.1, port 5201
[ 5] local 192.168.1.183 port 50376 connected to 192.168.1.1 port 5201
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bitrate Retr Cwnd
[ 5] 0.00-1.00 sec 38.4 MBytes 322 Mbits/sec 0 1.51 MBytes
[ 5] 1.00-2.00 sec 40.0 MBytes 336 Mbits/sec 0 2.12 MBytes
[ 5] 2.00-3.00 sec 41.2 MBytes 346 Mbits/sec 0 2.68 MBytes
[ 5] 3.00-4.00 sec 38.8 MBytes 325 Mbits/sec 0 3.00 MBytes
[ 5] 4.00-5.00 sec 42.5 MBytes 356 Mbits/sec 0 3.00 MBytes
[ 5] 5.00-6.00 sec 42.5 MBytes 357 Mbits/sec 0 3.00 MBytes
[ 5] 6.00-7.00 sec 38.8 MBytes 325 Mbits/sec 0 3.00 MBytes
[ 5] 7.00-8.00 sec 42.5 MBytes 356 Mbits/sec 0 3.00 MBytes
[ 5] 8.00-9.00 sec 43.8 MBytes 367 Mbits/sec 0 3.00 MBytes
[ 5] 9.00-10.00 sec 36.2 MBytes 304 Mbits/sec 5 2.10 MBytes
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bitrate Retr
[ 5] 0.00-10.00 sec 405 MBytes 339 Mbits/sec 5 sender
[ 5] 0.00-10.01 sec 402 MBytes 337 Mbits/sec receiver
iperf Done.
Connecting to host 192.168.1.1, port 5201
Reverse mode, remote host 192.168.1.1 is sending
[ 5] local 192.168.1.183 port 41582 connected to 192.168.1.1 port 5201
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bitrate
[ 5] 0.00-1.00 sec 51.5 MBytes 432 Mbits/sec
[ 5] 1.00-2.00 sec 53.5 MBytes 449 Mbits/sec
[ 5] 2.00-3.00 sec 55.8 MBytes 468 Mbits/sec
[ 5] 3.00-4.00 sec 53.3 MBytes 447 Mbits/sec
[ 5] 4.00-5.00 sec 54.5 MBytes 457 Mbits/sec
[ 5] 5.00-6.00 sec 47.3 MBytes 396 Mbits/sec
[ 5] 6.00-7.00 sec 55.5 MBytes 465 Mbits/sec
[ 5] 7.00-8.00 sec 55.7 MBytes 468 Mbits/sec
[ 5] 8.00-9.00 sec 52.5 MBytes 440 Mbits/sec
[ 5] 9.00-10.00 sec 57.6 MBytes 483 Mbits/sec
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bitrate Retr
[ 5] 0.00-10.01 sec 541 MBytes 453 Mbits/sec 0 sender
[ 5] 0.00-10.00 sec 537 MBytes 451 Mbits/sec receiver
iperf Done.
GoldenBin_20210323.bin
Connecting to host 192.168.1.1, port 5201
[ 5] local 192.168.1.183 port 53326 connected to 192.168.1.1 port 5201
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bitrate Retr Cwnd
[ 5] 0.00-1.00 sec 39.5 MBytes 331 Mbits/sec 0 1.76 MBytes
[ 5] 1.00-2.00 sec 38.8 MBytes 325 Mbits/sec 0 2.41 MBytes
[ 5] 2.00-3.00 sec 43.8 MBytes 367 Mbits/sec 0 2.91 MBytes
[ 5] 3.00-4.00 sec 41.2 MBytes 346 Mbits/sec 0 3.07 MBytes
[ 5] 4.00-5.00 sec 41.2 MBytes 346 Mbits/sec 0 3.07 MBytes
[ 5] 5.00-6.00 sec 41.2 MBytes 346 Mbits/sec 0 3.07 MBytes
[ 5] 6.00-7.00 sec 40.0 MBytes 336 Mbits/sec 0 3.07 MBytes
[ 5] 7.00-8.00 sec 43.8 MBytes 367 Mbits/sec 0 3.07 MBytes
[ 5] 8.00-9.00 sec 41.2 MBytes 346 Mbits/sec 0 3.07 MBytes
[ 5] 9.00-10.00 sec 41.2 MBytes 346 Mbits/sec 0 3.07 MBytes
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bitrate Retr
[ 5] 0.00-10.00 sec 412 MBytes 346 Mbits/sec 0 sender
[ 5] 0.00-10.01 sec 410 MBytes 343 Mbits/sec receiver
iperf Done.
Connecting to host 192.168.1.1, port 5201
Reverse mode, remote host 192.168.1.1 is sending
[ 5] local 192.168.1.183 port 46608 connected to 192.168.1.1 port 5201
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bitrate
[ 5] 0.00-1.00 sec 68.2 MBytes 572 Mbits/sec
[ 5] 1.00-2.00 sec 72.3 MBytes 607 Mbits/sec
[ 5] 2.00-3.00 sec 69.7 MBytes 584 Mbits/sec
[ 5] 3.00-4.00 sec 63.4 MBytes 532 Mbits/sec
[ 5] 4.00-5.00 sec 63.1 MBytes 529 Mbits/sec
[ 5] 5.00-6.00 sec 63.7 MBytes 535 Mbits/sec
[ 5] 6.00-7.00 sec 62.3 MBytes 523 Mbits/sec
[ 5] 7.00-8.00 sec 60.8 MBytes 510 Mbits/sec
[ 5] 8.00-9.00 sec 62.2 MBytes 522 Mbits/sec
[ 5] 9.00-10.00 sec 63.0 MBytes 529 Mbits/sec
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bitrate Retr
[ 5] 0.00-10.02 sec 652 MBytes 545 Mbits/sec 0 sender
[ 5] 0.00-10.00 sec 649 MBytes 544 Mbits/sec receiver
iperf Done.
But this is just a quick test...
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