Advise about cooling 5G/4G modem BPI-R4

Greetings All

I'm using OpenWRT system on my board BPI-R4

I want hear from you what is the good idea to reduce the temperature of the modem (Snapdragon X75 - Quectel RM551-GL) ...

Where my modem is reaching from 60c - 68c ... there is heatsink copper on the modem
Should I order fan with this temp ? or should don't as per operation Temp by manufacture


I want know where I can get PSU from where .... can you advise me with fan link from aliexpress

can I connect the fan here in these pins and how if yes ?
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This is what I found on aliexpress
Fan

Fan

I appreciate if you can advise with fan link

Don't need to

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ummmm but one time my eyes dropped on video on YouTube ... The man did test with the modem with fan and without Fan

There was improvement on speeds after he installed fan 20% to 50% for speeds (video removed from YouTube)

What is the point of this?

What “speed” was improved to begin with?

Usually a cpu is below 70 when cooled. You can run htop and check if the cpu is throttling down when in operating temp. If it isn’t throttling down then a cooler won’t make it go faster.

Dude .. thank you for respond .. but where are talking about 5G/4G modems not CPU its self .... the cpu has own fan ....

Well, as the picture in the first post.

Op temp for normal temp version is up to 75°C so we are still inside specs.
Extended version is 85°C.

Over that there is the environmental standards (for highest operating temp) ‘industrial standard’ with 125° and over that we have ‘military (and auto industry) standard’ with 155°.

This is pretty much silicone chip standard operating temperatures and their respective name.

The thing here is that we don’t know what actual model is installed if it is the standard operating temp model or extended temp model. We talk about two different hardware chips in the same family here with different part numbers!

At best it is text coded on top of the chip under the cooler but you need the actual datasheet to know what that code actually say.

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But you can simply just try moving air over it to prove your speed point, then you know if you need a fan or not…

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The most likely scenario what is installed is to look at the lower operating temperature.

If the device is made to be used outside then it is pretty much guaranteed to have the extended temp range to survive down to -40°C.

-30°C (or sometimes -20°C) isn’t actually defined in any electric environmental standard, so that is a strong clue that the “normal” temp range is something the manufacturer have made up for their lower quality chips made for cheap inside home usage.

All available environmental standards have either 0°C for normal, -40°C for extended and industry or -55°C for mil, aerospace and auto as lower temp range.

+75°C is a little anomaly also because usually it is +70°C, but not as big anomaly as -30°C!

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How air enters and how it exits?

The BPI-R4 box design is bad (no air ventilation) ....full closed box

I'm thinking on these designs

I think you should consider using the case itself as the heatsink, then add a fan outside if necessary. As to how...maybe heat pipes or heat straps?

Also, whoever's saying it's not "thermal throttling", please go read the thermal management guide from Quectel and do your own testing. Those power amplifiers are no joke, even with envelope tracking.

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The box is obviously part of thermal solution.

  1. It’s black which mean it dissipate heat as fast as possible.
  2. It has convection cooling, the ribs on the surface.
  3. I suspect it is aluminum.

But to make the cooling work as optimal as possible this kind of case and thermal solution must be mounted on a wall with the ribs on the case mounted vertically.

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Copper (not brass) heat pipes to case from copper heat pads to the case....

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Note heat pipes are same in plumbing store for hot water from gas heater.

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