Thanks, both for your kind words and your help. I, too, think it came out very nicely.

I'm curious - we've been trying to get feedback from others in the core developer team re: other aspects of the web site/wiki. But we haven't heard anything... Specifically, we want to:

a) update the OpenWrt home page (see draft at http://test.richb-hanover.com/openwrt-redesign/)
b) update the top-level wiki page to be more navigable for newcomers (see draft at http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/playground)

Is there some reason that we can't get any response on these? Thanks again.

Interesting.
The dataentry for the Archer C20i has definitely been updated (can be seen in the dataentry: View/Edit data is present + no link to picture). However, if you look at http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/start?dataflt%5BModel*~%5D=ac750, you see that there's still the old "Techdata" link in the last column, and when looking at the dataentry page, there's still the picture shown.

Maybe a problem with the database. I'll look into this later this evening.

The quite significant changes I made to the Supported columns and Unsupported seems to have taken effect as expected.
The view/edit data thing seems to have taken effect as well.

This problem also seems to have been effectively fixed: https://forum.openwrt.org/viewtopic.php?pid=287682#p287682
You can probably remove: http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/views/admin_test1

Perhaps, during import, a field with a value is not overwritten by a null-field?

Not sure about that.

Archer C20i -> fixed by editing (new line added, so effectively no change) and saving
-> Page gets indexed once again -> Error gone

Well, it wasn't that simple: When trying to save, I got an error message "Newer version exists", with newer version being the latest one (2015/08/27). Newer version? WTF? Now after saving, the last version is from 2015/08/31, and the one from 27th is gone. WT....???
Might have been a neutrino flipping a bit in the servers memory... dunno.

We have two more candidates, which still show "Techdata" i/o "View/Edit data":
Huawei    HG622
ZTE ZXHN F660    2.3

I'm updating the index right now, maybe after that those two are also updated in the database.
I'll keep you updated.

It looks like when a new dataentry page is created that it is bringing in some defaults that we do not see in the current table.  Things that I assume were agreed to have been blank. 

See the Hauwei HG8245 and Comtrend VR-3026e v1 which are new dataentry yesterday and today.

Hey, we have users!!!!

(Last edited by RangerZ on 2 Sep 2015, 19:00)

After the index update, both devices are OK.

Re "Newer version available":
Your tgz has been created 2015/08/27; the C20i dataentry has been edited later, on 2015/08/31. This was reason enough for dokuwiki, to keep the version of 31st as the latest one, not the one from 27th. -> Database still showing 31st, which included the picture.

Learning: When doing a datapage update, make sure to disable write access to the hwdata namespace, for all users, also logged in ones.

WOW, take a look at my favourite: http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/hwdata/d-link/d-link_dir-505

Both images are still there, and not even the correct Page Title is shown (without the Techdata:)!
-> Compare with the wikisource, where it is correct)
-> Edit the page and preview it (w/o any changes) -> Shows the expected Techdata, no images.
-> Cancel the Edit -> Page w/o Techdata again

-> That's not a problem of the data plugin, that's a caching problem of dokuwiki! (I left it this way for demonstration).

I don't want to neglect or diminish the problem...

...but as I see it, the data (import) itself was successful and correct...

We can keep working with the Data Entries and improve the new ToH.
Perhaps there will be a few (cache-related or other) glitches. Perhaps there will be some confusion.
But there is no major bug or corruption to worry about.

tmo26, as always, great that you put so much and serious effort into this!

Correct. All datapages have been updated correctly, only some erroneous cache leftovers.

BTW: if you add "?purge=true" to the url, the page will be freshly rebuild. No cache.
http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/hwdata/d-link/d-link_dir-505?purge=true
-> Now shows content according to the wiki source.

Edit:
If the wiki feels a bit slow for the next hours, don't worry: I cleared the cache, and all pages should now be freshly built, i/o coming from the cache.
/Edit

No problem. Working in my sparetime is more fun than working on my job
And I can say in return: You have also put very much effort into this and this wouldn't have been possible without you, or at least not so fast... maybe 2017 or so...

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The Raspberry Pi page: http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/raspberry_pi_foundation/raspberry_pi
seems to have been moved... raspberry_pi_foundation does not exist (and seems to never have existed).
I will fix the RPi Data Entries.

Found our first glitch:

IS:
Supported Since Rev                   : https://dev.openwrt.org/changeset/37666 # https://dev.openwrt.org/changeset/Rxxxxx

Should be: (add '_url'; del 'R' in Rxxxxx)
Supported Since Rev_url                   : https://dev.openwrt.org/changeset/37666 # https://dev.openwrt.org/changeset/xxxxx

Found this while working on the E4200.

Is that column missing in: http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/views/toh_extended_all
(along with the Current supported)?

Anyway, I kind of think it is better that supported-since-rev-field just contains "Rxxxxx", without the link.
But since the comments are not in line with what I think...
It could have been worse.

Another glitch: http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/views/toh_standard_all?dataflt[CPU+MHz*~]=2x
Most devices dont have a space between x and MHz, while the comment in the dataentry says to use space.
Space allows for linebreaking and narrower columns.

Missing columns: Yeah, maybe some columns are missing in certain datatables. I'll have a look.

http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/views/admin_test1 -> removed.

Hi,
I just did my first ever wiki edit!!  :-)
Well it's only a minor edit and it was more difficult then i expected

http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/howto/firstlogin
..Well, please don't laugh... I added the word HotSSH i also wanted to add a link to
https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/HotSSH
But that's where I got confused...

I'd like to help with the Wiki but I'm not sure if my old rusty brain is compatible with it.
I did read the syntax page but I escaped with a 'WTF? moment'

Now i'm not letting myself send away by bit's and bytes but if there is a more simple start with wiki editing that would be nice.  Also other simple tasks would be fine.  What can I do to help?

Difficult to find something for you when even setting links is a major hurdle.
What was your problem with setting the link?

[[https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/HotSSH|HotSSH]]

O, thanks now i get it.
The wiki links to Putty ans winSCP put me on the wrong foot...

Ok, i'll try to do more wiki tasks from now on! 
Fixed and saved..

That's strange. Especially the device page is missing
I looked at this already this morning, but couldn't find an obvious reason.
I'll keep on searching.

Edit: Geeeeeeez, this kept me busy the last 2,25h.
The error was not obvious and not easy to find: In the template_dataentry, the line with the "Device Page_page    :" in it must have contained some invisible strange character, that confused the datatables.

Solution: In the template_dataentry and dataentries of 2504n, 3026 and 8245 (=model-#), I re-typed that line manually, including the spaces. Seems to work. Please verify yourself.

(Last edited by tmo26 on 3 Sep 2015, 20:43)

Should have been a separate message rather than an edit.
Anyway, missing field problem is solved, see above.

Excellent!

I suggest we spend some days getting used to the new ToH. That should give us a good idea where further improvements are needed. Lets make a list in a few days of prioritised areas.

i just was browsing the avm.de fritzbox download section they have released sourcecode there
would it be an idea to add a link to their sourcecode?

http://download.avm.de/fritz.box/fritzbox.fon_wlan_7170/x_misc/opensrc/

or would that confuse more people then it might help? 
Now for the 7170 it doesn't make much sense since it is not supported bu OpenWRT, but for other models that are not yet fully supported it might make sense.

@frietpan: I suggest putting this information on the devicepage, rather than on the dataentry page / the toh.

Not sure i follow.  I still see the error in the records but would NOT expect fixing the template to change the existing data.  I was referring to the URL data on the last few columns. http://?

I will try to come up with something to add and let you know what happens for a new record.

I will have a closer look at it with a fresh mind tomorrow or on sunday.
it's hard to decide where to put it. As it is the vendors sourcecode.

Also there seem to be 2 conflicting wikipages about the 7170
http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/avm/fritz.box.wlan.7170 says
As of time of 22nd Nov 2010 developers say that:

    Wireless stability is supposedly almost done
    No dsl rewrite is needed (afaik)
    Usb client support is trivial to add
    Usb host support is in low demand

http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/avm/fritz.box.fon says:

Not supported

Far as I can tell this is both the same device the 7170.

I just entered the gl.inet ar150 -
http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/gl.inet/gl.inet_ar150
http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/hwdata/gl.inet/gl.inet_ar150

Device Page
There is a lot in the template, and I am conered that while it is a good template, it looks like there is a lot of data when all I have doen is the titel.  I think we need to put the comment info in a box and instruct users to delete the box wwhen they fill in a section.

Pictures
I uploaded pictures, but accidentally left a "."  out of the GL.iNET (GLINET) and it created a unwanted folder gl with inet under.  If you can please delete.

dataentry page
I think we need improved instructions as follows:
Availability - " null" => Choose a value that describes the products status in the manufacturers catalog
Device Page -  Enter device page here => something that better defines the nomenclature  toh:gl.inet:ar150 ( I do not have this correct)

The template is bringing in the http://? for the last 6 url fields.  I think that way the empty page defaults may need to be reviewed.

A "Fon" is never the same as a "WLAN" or "Fon WLAN" version.
http://www.wehavemorefun.de/fritzbox/FRITZ!Box-Familie