Hi folks,
i want to buy a new router for Openwrt. It must be have the fastest CPU. On the wiki site “Table of Hardware“ are only very slow device. It must be have

-    1Ghz CPU or faster
-    Gbit LAN
-    USB 3.0

I found „Netgear Nighthawk R7500-100PES“.
Is it compatible with openwrt? I didn´t found any information about that.
My second favorite is „TP-Link Archer C9“ is it compatible?
Or have any an another idea for a faster device?
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Hallo Leute,
ich möchte mir einen neuen Router zulegen, wegen Openwrt. Er muss de schnellsten CPU haben, den es zur Zeit gibt. Aber auf der Wiki Seite „Table of Hardware“ sind nur sehr langsame Modelle. Was er mindestens haben muss

-    1Ghz oder schneller
-    Gbit Lan
-    USB 3.0

Ich bin auf den „Netgear Nighthawk R7500-100PES“ aufmerksam geworden. Nur bin ich nicht sicher ob der kompatibel ist. Läuft da Openwrt drauf?
Im Internet hab ich keine Informationen dazu gefunden.
Mein zweiter Favorit ist der „TP-Link Archer C9“. Aber auch hier hab ich nichts gefunden, bezüglich der Kompatiblität.
Oder hat sonst noch einer ne Idee für noch ein schnelleres Gerät?

mirabox
https://dev.openwrt.org/browser/trunk/t … alscale.mk

PC Engines APU (AMD64) http://www.pcengines.ch/apu.htm

We are working on improving the Table of Hardware... perhaps this temporary version helps you:
  https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/906 … index.html

Probably not as fast as the above suggestions, but the Linksys WRT1900AC sounds like a candidate.

@yapoo
Mirabox is designed for car´s, no LAN and only USB host

@nilfred
a board? Maybe when i find nothing else, but no ARM CPU

@zo0ok
WRT1900AC look like very good. But many people says its very bugy and it can brick when you install packages

Whats about Netgear R7500? Myopenrouter.com says it´s supported, but i didn´t find anything on openwrt.com
Is this device supported or not?

Reading Myghtyous answer... what is this:
http://myopenrouter.com/download/openwr … gear-r7500

The router:
- is not mentioned in the Table of Hardware
- is not found on the wiki
- does not have an image (did not find any r7500/R7500 when searching the buildroot)

Is myopenrouter just a fraud?
Is there some brcm47xx-generic image that just works, but it is not mentioned anywhere?

Hi.
You found another mirabox. :-)
I mean this.
https://www.globalscaletechnologies.com … t-kit.aspx

It's a Netgear thing, since they use OpenWrt as the basis for their routers, they're not entirely lying.

pcengines APU (x86, no ARM) runs real, stripped down LINUX, like voyage. Which is based on debian, so you can have latest driver support.
I have it with internal MC7710-LTE modem, 16GB internal flash, external 1TB,  DSL, WiFi as my home server, for development.
To compile openwrt. Fanless, of course.
Dat Teil iss Spitze, Alter.

(Last edited by augustus_meyer on 28 Jun 2015, 22:15)

What is your use case?

I will second the PC-Engines APU, but if a 1ghz processor and 2GB of memory are not enough this would probably make a killer OpenWRT router

ACT FAST.  ONLY 3 HRS LEFT

http://www.ebay.com/itm/pfSense-Router- … 4aec1d24fb

2.3Ghz Dual Core AMD Turion 4G RAM / 3 x 1G NIC / 32 GB SSD

Slap in a i386 x64 version.  Never need to worry about space for your packages.

I do not think I will ever buy a consumer router again. 
I want VPN and the processors are just tooo sloow.
Newer processors have built in AES instructions.

RangerZ

(Last edited by RangerZ on 29 Jun 2015, 01:59)

Sorry, here are the enclosures for the board:
Aluminium http://www.pcengines.ch/case1d2u.htm
Black http://www.pcengines.ch/case1d2blku.htm
Red http://www.pcengines.ch/case1d2redu.htm
Blue http://www.pcengines.ch/case1d2bluu.htm

Not ARM, x86 64 bit SMP Dual Core.

Hi I was looking at thos PC Engines APU (AMD64) but I cant workout witch one I wood need and what I wood need to by to make it in to a full router.

I want to replace my wrd 3600 i have 100 meg down and 10 up with about 30 devices
on wifi 2.4 and 5 ghz. If you by the bored what do you do for storage and wifi cards Why don't they make a rite up for noobs to be a bored ready built up?

pcengines.ch has a forum. For SW, I can recommend you to "voyage", as stripped down debian.
http://linux.voyage.hk/
Image, ready to run on APU.

You need as a minimum:
APU Board - http://www.pcengines.ch/apu1c.htm
Case - black http://www.pcengines.ch/case1d1blku.htm
Power supply - check the list for your country requirements, you can use an 18v or 12v.
SD Card - i do not see this on the price list, but easy enough to get.
mSata - optional - http://www.pcengines.ch/msata16d.htm

For wireless you need a
miniPCI express radio - http://www.pcengines.ch/wle200nx.htm
RF cable - http://www.pcengines.ch/pigsma.htm
antenna - http://www.pcengines.ch/antsmadb.htm, http://www.pcengines.ch/antsma.htm

Please note that the unit is only USB 2.0.  I am not aware that OpenWRT supports USB 3.0., but your specification for a USB 3.0 port is valid in today's market.  Transfer rates vary by file system.  It appears the EXT is about the fastest.  NTFS is slow.

Pick your country and/or distributor here:
http://www.pcengines.ch/order.php

Manual - http://www.pcengines.ch/pdf/apu1.pdf

You want the openwrt-15.05-rc2-x86-64-combined-ext4.img.gz version of OpenWRT available here. 
https://downloads.openwrt.org/chaos_cal … c2/x86/64/
There is only one version of the 64bit i386 package, so you may need to do some customizing or roll your own package.  You may want to make a list of your current packages and back up your config files for reference or reuse.

As noted the device can run voyage Linux if you want to run a real Linux box.  It also can run any of the other competitive open source products like pfSense or ipFire.

The documentation is vague, but I believe that the wireless card will work on one or the other band, but not both at the same time.  Search on this.  There are two slots, (the third is for the m-sata) so you can run 2 cards, but would need to mod the case for additional antennas.  Research other cards, but N cards are limited.

The price difference is small for the 4GB, about 20 eu.

The board runs hot so make sure to follow the instructions for installing the thermal material.  http://www.pcengines.ch/apucool.htm  The doc indicates the black or red case cools best.

I like the ability to DD to the card.  You can have different OS variations on different cards.  Change card, reboot, go.  Clone cards, etc.

I will suggest you consider keeping your TP-Link as an access point.  I have the same unit and run mine as an AP in a location that is selected for the wireless performance.  I think this is a great device.  My router is in a basement closet where the lines come in, and does not server the property well. 

RangerZ

(Last edited by RangerZ on 29 Jun 2015, 16:00)

thanks RangerZ
for trying to help me but the link you gave me for a APU Board dont make sence just what wood i be getting for my money and how wood i go about buying it.
I have built lots of computers but fucking hell why do they make it so complicated. So what you are saying just use this as a router and use the wdr3600 as a ap. I have 2 wdr 3600s so could i use one for 5ghz and 1for 2.4ghz? I live in the UK can you by them ready built in a case and with storage?

Hey there.

If its not about money but only performance, you could give some regular x86 devices a try. Lets say the intel NUC or something. I have no clue if the OpenWRT x86 build has USB driver support for those but there's a chance that's gonna be awesom in terms of performance.

But deciding on hardware without knowing the exact requirement is uselsss.
So could we please start with: What exactly is the problem to solve?

Maybe sticking to OpenWRT isn't the best way to go, either. As long as OpenWRT mainly targets low powered SoHo devices, having a SoHo grade OpenWRT device for routing, firewalling, switching and stuff on one hand and having an enterprise server class node for computing tasks on the other hand might be the better choice in terms of both, price and resource usage.

I do run a TP-Link 4900 as WAN gateway with a couple of vlans, two other TP-Link 4900, a TP-Link 4300 and a TP-Link 1043 as hot spots all connected to an Intel i5 CPU 16GB RAM 2TB hardware RAID host running ESX for "service" like webserver, samba4 domain controller, a routing/NATing OpenWRT instance and some other VMs.

Having only one device for those things would neither be sufficient in terms of wifi range, nor in terms of computing performance.

By the way: I really doubt pure CPU and RAM has anything to do with number of devices connected. I can set up a single client computer doing torrent stuff that just eats up whatever hardware you come up with. Once I had a single Macbook (one of 50 device) connected to an Astaro on bare metal Xeon 4*2.5GHz that alone used 50% CPU on that router. Ok, that was a dum misconfiguration of that Macbook doing local loopback through a proxy connection. But that clearly shows: You just cant provide enough hardware to never worry about utilization.

If its only about regular use, the number of wifi clients isn't limited by computing power but by wifi capacity. So just having a huge number of hot spots utilizing every wifi channel you can get usually is the far better choice. This means: Lots of low powered hot spots to reduce overlapping.

The thing I want to tell you with this essay: Just asking for "the most powerfull hardware one could imagine to run OpenWRT on" isn't exactly answered easily and really depeonds on what you want to do.

And to give the initial post of this thread a straight answer: No, the C9 isn't supported. The C5v2 as well as the C7 are supported (there are rumors of them to be equipped equally), but they have less CPU.

Regards,
Stephan.

(Last edited by golialive on 29 Jun 2015, 21:13)

The link above, http://www.pcengines.ch/order.php will let you purchase direct or direct you to 2 UK distributors of PC-Engines products.

I apparently was not clear on the wireless.  The world of PCI-E cards (for the PC-Engines APU and other platforms that take these cards) appear to be dual band cards which can be set to run either 2.4G or 5.0G, but not both.  There are 2 slots in the APU board, so you could install a card for each band, however there are only 2 holes for antennas, so you would need to drill 2 additional holes.

More importantly, I am suggesting that the APU be a Router/Firewall with relevant apps (OpenVPN etc) that should run on a SERVER (no wireless).  Move your wireless access to the TP-Link and optimize it's signal.  Each of your units have the ability to run both radios simultaneously, unlike the APU.  NOTE: It's not an APU issue, its a wireless card issue.

All said, along with others who have asked, PLEASE STATE YOUR USE CASE