TP-LINK Archer C6U

Hi, I have a Archer C7 V5 and for what I use it works great.
However, because the pandemic I start to work more at home and I would like to have a backup for it, if something fails.

And, according to the prices here the Archer 6U could be a good temporary solution. Any one have feedback about it and some compare with Archer C7 V5?

With my best regards

CGR

For a backup device, it makes more sense to keep an identical device as cold spare, as that makes migrating configurations and debugging a lot easier. Especially in this case with swconfig (ath79) versus DSA (mt7621).

Diversifying makes sense, if…

  • you can trade up (c7 vs 6u is more of a side-step)
  • you still have old devices around 'for free', which can be jury rigged into service even if they aren't really up to keeping pace with normal production services
  • you aren't happy with the current device for one reason or another (giving the competition a chance)
  • you are familiar with the details and want a playground
  • there'd be a significant price delta

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Admittedly, I wouldn't buy either of these devices myself. The c7 is a bit dated and imho overpriced for what it can offer (although it's still a dependable and solid device), the c6u comes with rather wonky wireless (mt7603e (bad in congested environments) + mt7613be (DSA support mostly missing), the red headed stepchildren of the mt76 family).

I keep a cold spare of same model that I run same OpenWRT on. So it just needs a config restore and you are back on track. That being said, none of my four C7's (overclocked to 1GHz!) ever failed in four years...

HI, slh, thanks for your time and feedback..

Well, the main driver will be the price. The C6U is half the price of the C7 and because of that I was wondering, worth it? But if it have that problems with WIFI I prefer to be sure with a backup C7.

About a new router is becoming difficult for me that. I started at some years with a WDR3600 that works well and heavy loaded. Adblock, privoxy, dnscrypt, Samba, vnstat, using the USB for overlay, logs and NAS and was the main router for a 3 floor home. I have more three router over the floors.After sometime I move to C7 and move all this to it except Samba that remains on WDR3600. Later I add raspberry PI as a PiHole, dnscrypt and NAS, removing this from C7 and WDR3600 that is only a AP.

All this to comment that I was searching around for a new one but, witch new one? With a three floor house one router never works, I need that over all floors, I move everything to raspberry PI, and so everything that I find here, OpenWRT, is to expensive to do the same as C7. And most of the routers you have on the Openwrt list I can not find here, Portugal.

I think the feeling was, what I can do with a new one! :slight_smile: Or just have a new one!

Well, I think I am wait for Black-Friday, who knows I get a C7 cheaper LOL

Many thanks

CGR

HI, Gruntruck, thanks for your time and feedback.

Yes, as you can read on my previous post I think I will move to that. Perhaps I replace the WDR3600 by this C7 and if someone fails just put the new config files on it a put WDR3600 working again.

Also I have C7, WDR3600 and two 841N with years and working. All of the with Openwrt.

Just a question? The gain moving from 750 Mhz to 1Ghz processor speed worth it? Not to hot? Do you have handy any info to direction to that?

With my best regards

CGR

I run all my C7's as APs and use 80MHz wide 5GHz channels only. With stock 720MHz clock, you run out of sirq before you run out of bandwidth. 1GHz is a sweet spot where both WiFi bandwith and CPU grunt converge...it runs flat out on both and nets 500Mbit of WiFi throughput (no NAT, just WLAN).

But even if you run it as proper router (I use x86 for that), performance scales in linear fashion. OpenVPN is faster, routing goes quicker etc. 1GHz is sweet spot. No heat or clock issues. More is possible but internal clock usually skews beyond 1GHz.

I use BREED bootloader for OC: Archer C7 5GHz performance, sirq 99%

Hi, thanks for your reply.

I will take a deep look on that, I never tough having routers with OC. I will make some tests here with CT drivers, no NAT, after that see what I have with no CT drivers and after see how that works with OC as you did on your post. :slightly_smiling_face:

With my best regards

CGR

I am powering my C7's with PoE so I am able to measure power consumtion (through my PoE switch). Power increase by OC from 720 to 960MHz is neglible ... like 0.2W. It uses 5.4W in total with 2.4GHz switched off.

Hi, thanks you for your reply.

I will try this with a new Archer C7 keeping my actual working :slight_smile: and I will put here my experience.

Best regards

CGR

Hi:
Well, i get a new Archer Archer C7 V5 and I make some tests with it, most clean possible.
I test with a laptop DELL with a Intel AC 8265 2x2 MIMO and also with a XIOMI Lite M10.
I test with Speedtest and Iperf3, Laptop and Mobile as client and a old AMD FX-4300 computer (7 years) as Iperf3 Server

This new Archer C7 is connected as a AP to a main Archer C7 that works as a router

So, I test with CT drivers and no CT drivers except with Mobile was with only CT drivers.

With CT Drivers:
Speed Test - 271 download and 105 upload (operator limit)
Iperf3
Client -> Server - 250Mb
Server -> Cliente (-R Swicth) - 282

Without CT Drivers
Speedtest - 241, less 30Mb
Iperf
Client -> Server - 216Mb, less 34Mb
Server -> Cliente (-R Swicth) - 250, less 30Mb

For me without CT is worst

The Iperf with Xiaomi MI 10 Lite I have:
Iperf
Client -> Server - 236Mb
Server -> Cliente (-R Swicth) - 233

Regarding OC after some reading I think gain does not worth the risk.

With my best regards

CGR

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