# "Services" does not appear **URL:** \ **Category:** Installing and Using OpenWrt\ **Created:** [January 31, 2023, 7:38pm UTC](https://forum.openwrt.org/t/services-does-not-appear/150158 "2023-01-31T19:38:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![aitorGTI](https://forum.openwrt.org/letter_avatar/aitorgti/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@aitorGTI](https://forum.openwrt.org/u/aitorGTI)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 7:38pm UTC](https://forum.openwrt.org/t/services-does-not-appear/150158/1 "2023-01-31T19:38:40Z")
Hello, As you can see in the attached photo, I´m having problems to configure my DDNS server because I haven´t got the "Services" on the top of my openwrt, I don´t know which package I need to donwload for "services". ¿Can you help me? Best regards. ![Sin título](https://forum.openwrt.org/uploads/default/original/3X/b/e/bea8ce438431b0536e17cf66b7424a616457b72f.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![psherman](https://forum.openwrt.org/letter_avatar/psherman/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@psherman](https://forum.openwrt.org/u/psherman)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 7:40pm UTC](https://forum.openwrt.org/t/services-does-not-appear/150158/2 "2023-01-31T19:40:25Z")
You're running a truly ancient version of OpenWrt... (Barrier Breaker 14.07). That has been EOL and entirely unsupported for many many years. I'm not even sure if that version had the "services" menu. What device are you using? ```plaintext ubus call system board ``` ---
**Author:** ![aitorGTI](https://forum.openwrt.org/letter_avatar/aitorgti/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@aitorGTI](https://forum.openwrt.org/u/aitorGTI)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 7:42pm UTC](https://forum.openwrt.org/t/services-does-not-appear/150158/3 "2023-01-31T19:42:32Z")
I´m using an old router, ALPHA ASL-26555, I have tried with a newer version but it works too slow... ---
**Author:** ![psherman](https://forum.openwrt.org/letter_avatar/psherman/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@psherman](https://forum.openwrt.org/u/psherman)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 7:48pm UTC](https://forum.openwrt.org/t/services-does-not-appear/150158/4 "2023-01-31T19:48:32Z")
That's not surprising given that the device is so old. But given the extreme age of Barrier Breaker, you should not be using it on the internet anymore. It is just not safe. There are many potentially serious security vulnerabilities that could cause the router and possibly your entire network to be put at risk. That version is almost 9 years old... There have been 6 major releases since 14.07. It appears that your device is supported at least through 17.01 (but that is not much better from a security perspective), and even 19.07 has been EOL and unsupported for the better part of a year. I suggest that it is time to ecycle that device and get something that can support a modern version of OpenWrt. ---
**Author:** ![aitorGTI](https://forum.openwrt.org/letter_avatar/aitorgti/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@aitorGTI](https://forum.openwrt.org/u/aitorGTI)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 7:52pm UTC](https://forum.openwrt.org/t/services-does-not-appear/150158/5 "2023-01-31T19:52:23Z")
The truth is that the equipment will be for a home network in which I do not have any type of sensitive information. Is there any way to get the services to appear? maybe with a slightly newer version? Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![psherman](https://forum.openwrt.org/letter_avatar/psherman/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@psherman](https://forum.openwrt.org/u/psherman)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 7:57pm UTC](https://forum.openwrt.org/t/services-does-not-appear/150158/6 "2023-01-31T19:57:44Z")
> [@aitorGTI](#): > > home network in which I do not have any type of sensitive information. This is not a good approach to security. You may not be holding secrets of national defense or propriatary company information on your local network, but if you use your network for anything that has an account associated with it -- i.e. email, banking, bill-pay, shopping, etc. -- you really don't want to have a vulnerable system that could be exploited. You'd be amazed how quickly things can go wrong with your personal accounts and devices if you have an issue with security. Anyway, You should use the most modern version that is supported by your device... it seems 17.01 is listed on the device info page, but you may be able to run 18.06 or 19.07. Those are still unsupported, but at least they are closer to something current. ---
**Author:** ![aitorGTI](https://forum.openwrt.org/letter_avatar/aitorgti/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@aitorGTI](https://forum.openwrt.org/u/aitorGTI)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 7:59pm UTC](https://forum.openwrt.org/t/services-does-not-appear/150158/7 "2023-01-31T19:59:48Z")
I´m going to try with the latest supported version and I´m going to think about a new device. Thanks a lot. ---
**Author:** ![psherman](https://forum.openwrt.org/letter_avatar/psherman/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@psherman](https://forum.openwrt.org/u/psherman)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 8:00pm UTC](https://forum.openwrt.org/t/services-does-not-appear/150158/8 "2023-01-31T20:00:16Z")
you're welcome. If your problem is solved, please consider marking this topic as [Solved]. See [How to mark a topic as [Solved]](https://forum.openwrt.org/t/how-to-mark-a-topic-as-solved/40174) for a short how-to. ---
**Author:** ![aitorGTI](https://forum.openwrt.org/letter_avatar/aitorgti/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@aitorGTI](https://forum.openwrt.org/u/aitorGTI)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 8:08pm UTC](https://forum.openwrt.org/t/services-does-not-appear/150158/9 "2023-01-31T20:08:12Z")
I tried with tle 17.01 version, but, the menu of services is not available... Any sugestions? ![Sin título](https://forum.openwrt.org/uploads/default/original/3X/b/e/be61e8202bbafba21a05cf4e2dcbeff0e2033dc0.jpeg) Thanks a lot. ---
**Author:** ![psherman](https://forum.openwrt.org/letter_avatar/psherman/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@psherman](https://forum.openwrt.org/u/psherman)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 8:17pm UTC](https://forum.openwrt.org/t/services-does-not-appear/150158/10 "2023-01-31T20:17:43Z")
Can you upgrade to 18.06 or 19.07? ---
**Author:** ![aitorGTI](https://forum.openwrt.org/letter_avatar/aitorgti/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@aitorGTI](https://forum.openwrt.org/u/aitorGTI)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 8:46pm UTC](https://forum.openwrt.org/t/services-does-not-appear/150158/11 "2023-01-31T20:46:16Z")
This versions are not available for my device. ¿Where can i donwload them? Thanks a lot. ---
**Author:** ![psherman](https://forum.openwrt.org/letter_avatar/psherman/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@psherman](https://forum.openwrt.org/u/psherman)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 9:00pm UTC](https://forum.openwrt.org/t/services-does-not-appear/150158/12 "2023-01-31T21:00:56Z")
> [@aitorGTI](#): > > ASL-26555 Seems to be here: [https://archive.openwrt.org/releases/18.06.9/targets/ramips/rt305x/](https://archive.openwrt.org/releases/18.06.9/targets/ramips/rt305x/) [https://archive.openwrt.org/releases/19.07.10/targets/ramips/rt305x/](https://archive.openwrt.org/releases/19.07.10/targets/ramips/rt305x/) ---
**Author:** ![grrr2](https://forum.openwrt.org/user_avatar/forum.openwrt.org/grrr2/32/50931_2.png) [@grrr2](https://forum.openwrt.org/u/grrr2)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 9:02pm UTC](https://forum.openwrt.org/t/services-does-not-appear/150158/13 "2023-01-31T21:02:24Z")
putting aside using old, out-dated and probably unsecure version for a moment, packages with names starting with `luci-app-` will show up in luci. you may need to logout / login to allow luci to read freshly installed configs. so you need to `opkg update ; opkg install luci-app-ddns`, you may also need to install extra ddns scripts to support your ddns provider `opkg install ddns-scripts-`. please note i cannot recall how old ddns was working exactly, this is how it is split into various bits now. but the approach (i.e. using luci-app-ddns) was the same as i recall. hope it helps. but very much suggesting to replace your router with a recent one supporting latest owrt to keep things secure as possible. ---
**Author:** ![aitorGTI](https://forum.openwrt.org/letter_avatar/aitorgti/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@aitorGTI](https://forum.openwrt.org/u/aitorGTI)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 9:51pm UTC](https://forum.openwrt.org/t/services-does-not-appear/150158/14 "2023-01-31T21:51:09Z")
> [@grrr2](#): > > opkg install luci-app-ddns Now, I have got the 19.07.10 version. The "Services" are not available. I tried to do what you say, but, I can´t do it: ```plaintext root@OpenWrt:~# opkg install luci-app-ddns Installing luci-app-ddns (2.4.9-7) to root... Collected errors: * verify_pkg_installable: Only have 0kb available on filesystem /overlay, pkg luci-app-ddns needs 26 * opkg_install_cmd: Cannot install package luci-app-ddns. ``` I don´t understand because I have got some memory... ![Sin título](https://forum.openwrt.org/uploads/default/original/3X/f/f/ff42d75de0bdf831d46a56787cc78e970b081ead.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![psherman](https://forum.openwrt.org/letter_avatar/psherman/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@psherman](https://forum.openwrt.org/u/psherman)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 10:04pm UTC](https://forum.openwrt.org/t/services-does-not-appear/150158/15 "2023-01-31T22:04:37Z")
> [@aitorGTI](#): > > - verify\_pkg\_installable: Only have 0kb available on filesystem /overlay, pkg luci-app-ddns needs 26 So you've run out of flash storage space... This will start to become a much more complex thing to achieve if you need to start freeing up space. > [@aitorGTI](#): > > I don´t understand because I have got some memory... You're looking at RAM. The memory that is filled to capacity is the flash storage. ---
**Author:** ![grrr2](https://forum.openwrt.org/user_avatar/forum.openwrt.org/grrr2/32/50931_2.png) [@grrr2](https://forum.openwrt.org/u/grrr2)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 5:33pm UTC](https://forum.openwrt.org/t/services-does-not-appear/150158/16 "2023-02-01T17:33:27Z")
i am afraid what @psherman explained and [https://openwrt.org/toh/alpha\_networks/asl26555](https://openwrt.org/toh/alpha_networks/asl26555) describes is true: you don't have enough flash to store extra files. time to invest into a new router.