Router build + VOIP recommendations


#1

Hi all

Building a router to work with my Netgear DM200 in bridge mode soon. This what i have chosen so far in terms of hardware:

Dual LAN N3160 Thin-ITX motherboard: https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.34.6e6238eemaSkVr&id=588553899975&ns=1&abbucket=3#detail

Qualcomm QCA9882 wireless card: https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3-c-s.w4002-15875056217.16.40203406mxr8za&id=45689439098

Cisco SPA112: https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.16.7e0c4cf5j5aA49&id=585977871080&ns=1&abbucket=3#detail

Will I have any issues with these?

Thanks.


#2

Not really but....
N3160 is old, you're better off getting an ARM platform instead unless you specifically need x86 for some reason.

IPQ4/IPQ8/Marvell will be more than enough for you connection since the DM200 is DSL modem, IPQ does however have some quirks with ethernet howeve which may affect you. WRT1***, WRT3200ACM or WRT32X will also do the job just fine however you may run into wifi issues with some device irregardless what device you choose.

Another option would be Espressobin and a separate wifi card like QCA9984 (https://compex.com.sg/shop/wifi-module/wle1216v2-20/)) however such cards are in general quite expensive and you'll need antennas too. https://www.asiarf.com/shop/hot-sales/wifi-11ac-mini-pcie-module-high-power-ws2433-h/ might be an option but pricing... Given that you only have DSL this would be fine https://www.asiarf.com/shop/hot-sales/wifi-mini-pcie-module-dual-bands-2-4ghz-5ghz-802-11-a-b-g-n-bt-4-0-hs-soc-solution-with-sst-technology-qualcomm-atheros-ar9462-wb222/ however....

As far as VoIP goes, just go for a Gigaset or Yealink handset... It's 2019 and ATA boxes are a thing of the past really...


#3

Thank you for the feedback.

My reasoning for going x86/n3160 is so i could build the router myself (so i have a better understanding of what's going in it for troubleshooting's sake), and so if worst comes to worst and i give up on the router, i won't be stuck with an expensive brick.

Does it matter which exact card I get, or should I be fine as long as Openwrt has no problems with the chipset?

And thanks for the Voip tip :slight_smile:


#4

Any of the ARM devices will hardly be a brick but I can see your concern. In all honesty, a cheap MIPS box would do just fine if you're "just" looking for a router and possibly some kind of QoS capability. If you're in US that's a very good deal based on what wikidevi says.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M1B5T2W --> https://wikidevi.com/wiki/HooToo_HT-ND001 --> https://github.com/openwrt/openwrt/commit/30a7ab8f61c8a5f1a4428f8c7cf9a1d6a12b096b

https://www.idealo.de/preisvergleich/OffersOfProduct/5641514_-dual-band-gigabit-router-1200-strong.html

ath9k is by far the safest bet but also the slowest, mt76 can be a mixed bag but that also goes for ath10k-ct. All "should" work, I'd pass on the older 9882 card however.

Just to clarify, by handset I mean the DECT ones and you're welcome.


#5

Ooh, I'll take a look at that, thanks. I'm in Australia but have access to a shipping forwarder.

What about the Killer 1525/QCAQCA6174? I have one in my laptop and from what I tested it worked great with ath10k.


#6

The 3160 will run rings around the mvebu and at nearly the same price in some places. Here in US WRT32X is only about $100 refurbished, but elsewhere it's near $300... Mvebu is good at that US price but x86 is a better choice once you are paying more than $200-250


#7

..and draws a lot more power overall etc and it's DSL line. Unless you plan on running something more off the device which require more processing power it's probably not worth it. Also, crap NICs which aren't exactly sollid...

In that regard I'd the HooToo box which is dirt cheap right now (if I were in the US) :slight_smile: It'll do for now and due the price its not the end of the world if you need to replace it like in 3y or so.


#8

That's true esp at DSL speeds, gigabit fiber would be a different story. At DSL speeds mvebu would be an excellent choice.


#9

Be aware that most PC wireless cards only support a single band at a time, even if “dual-band”.


#10

If you're talking the tm02 at $20 I think the gl-inet ar300m-lite is better in basically every way at same price. More ram, flash and CPU.

Hootoo boxes seem to be 8/32 flash/ram devices, GL-inet devices are 16/128

Never mind I missed your link, the ac1200 unit looks interesting, wikidevi doesn't say anything re flash and ram, but the commit you linked says 16/128, and dirt cheap, better than the. Miwifi 3g for sure


#11

Thanks for the suggestions guys, looking into them right now.


#12

On some Target = lantiq / subtarget = xway or xrx200 routers exist DSL-Modem and Telefon-FXS support.
They are ideal for old rotary telefon support.


#13

Eh, all in one is not the way to go here, a separate ATA is preferable.


#14

Where is the problem ?
The Router can be used for dedicated ATA too. Or as dedicated Modems.
In some cases it is a better solution because these Lantiq devices are a littebit slow.


#15

Lack of flexibility, more things to fail, and failure requires you to replace the whole thing... in my experience the electrical issues are somewhat nontrivial, ringing an old hardwired phone requires around 90 volts, and it's an inductive load, this tends to burn out cheap electronics. Also

Potentially More than a little for today's speeds


#16

Yep but only with Openwrt, but this is not the point.

This is not true.
I use an FeTAP 791 from the 80s and a W28 from 1940 on it and it works well, but only Asterisk is a littlebit problematic and a lot of know how required.
Specialy the Openwrt devices are working well, because you have features like interdigittime and you can en/disable echo supressor, and the timings are tollerant.