Hey thanks for the reply.
Yeah there are tons of posts around the R7800. In general it seems the best one so far? Is it running stable for you? How's the wifi? I'll be mostly connected with it via Wifi as there's no sockets around in the flat. Since I'm not experienced with networking (I think I know the basics..) I fear that if it's not stable, I might lose time and etc. It's fine in the beginning until I figure out everything but once it's setup should run smoothly. That's what I fear with the Linksys, seems not much content around.
Hey thanks for the reply.
The r7800 is higher end (faster SOC, faster WLAN, faster throughput, working VLANs), what the mr8300 has going for it would be the triple-radio hardware (good for wireless repeaters/ mesh situations).
Either of them can do 75 MBit/s though.
Buy a second hand R7800.... I've now 4 around the house and no problem. In NL i buy them for 50 euro on the local e-bay.
I might be wrong but it seems like IPQ401X have better support though?
I'd say that ipq806x is in better shape than ipq40xx. qca8k is mainline (and its PR just waiting to be merged), VLAN tagging works as intended and performance is better (~650 MBit/s vs 360 MBit/s routing throughput). The remaining (non-backport) patches for ipq806x are rather straight forward (thanks a lot to Ansuel's work).
Yes, ipq40xx also works well - but the wired networking side is ...difficult (especially in regards to VLANs). If you don't need custom VLAN setups, it's fine (and DSA, which is supposed to fix the deficiencies of the out-of-tree ethernet+switch driver, for it is slowly taking shape, but not quite ready for prime time, yet).
EDIT: Let's be clear, functionally both are working pretty nicely - and both are still improving, but ipq806x is higher end (faster) and more versatile with fully working switch drivers (ipq40xx will improve/ get on par with this in the future). For <300 MBit/s (without SQM) both will do, for AP uses the lower prices and the tri-radio option might swing the decision towards ipq4019.
I wish I could find them for this price in here.
Hum interesting. Could you point me maybe on what is the issues with VLANs in IPQ40xx? I would be using VLANs, both for wired and wifi clients (wired most likely only PS4 and chromecast).
I can't find the R7800 to buy anymore, not even used.. so will have to find another model.
If you're located in North America, https://openwrt.org/inbox/toh/askey/rt4230w_rev6 would be a viable alternative (starting around 20 USD on the used markets), apart from that there are several less popular (supported) ipq806x devices that can occassionally be found rather cheaply (e.g. ZyXEL Armor Z2 NBG6817, ASRock G10, Linksys EA8500, …).
You have the MR8300 for 86.49€ at amazon.fr
It's much cheaper than what I paid for it a couple of months ago , lucky you
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MR8300 - great choice for mesh networks, working fine.
For general case I'd recommend EA8500 & R7800. For skill pumping grab an Askey RAC2V1K / RT4230W, great hardware.
Thanks all for the suggestions. Still looking into it. I was browsing the forum and bumped into this other model: https://openwrt.org/toh/linksys/e8450 (Belkin RT3200). Seems to be well supported? Do you know anything from it? A bit pricy but.. (150 Germany). Between paying 100 for a used R7800 and this..I feel more inclined to this one but again, not sure.
The r7800 has bin grate for me. I will pick up a Belkin RT3200 when I can find one for cheep tho!
The rt3200 is snapshots only until the next major release, development still appears to be a bit bumpy as well - but it's an interesting device (the normal price is ~95 EUR, not the ~155 EUR amazon is asking for right now).
Yeah it's gone in Amazon.de now. I have the chance of getting a Netgear R7800 for 100bucks. I've been researching and that one seems like a no brainer, well supported model. Lots of community content on it.
With that said, what would you recommend me now? Take this used one (Used for 2 years the seller said, used with OpenWRT as well, now shipped with Stock firmware). 100 bucks is not cheap, but this router was for 200+ so.. guess price is OK. I'm just a bit concerned of the years starting to creep in.
Used, fine - 100 EUR after 2 years not quite. I know that the market for affordable r7800 is limited, but that is more than I would pay.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Belkin-Wireless-Dual-Band-Streaming-Parental/dp/B08L4PJKKB you can order from non-local amazon stores as well (and let them handle importing and taxation), should end up just over 100 EUR as well (and far from 155 EUR).
Yeah I saw that, never ordered something from Amazon that would incur taxes. But as far as I saw this one is still only supported in snapshot? I'm pretty much dependent on working internet these days due to WFH, and would suck if the router starts to behave funky. I didn't find much content around it here.
Actually I just saw your previous message, and I found a ASRock G10 for 70 euros new. Trying to see how well supported that one is.
The g10 is working nicely, but it's an older generation (ipq8064, 2*1.4 GHz, with the EOLed QCA9980 wireless - versus ipq8065, 2*1.7 GHz and QCA9984 which is regularly getting firmware updates from QCA). I bought a used one (albeit for a fraction of that price) as backup device and I'm rather happy with it for the intended purpose - but ipq8065 is a worthwhile update nevertheless.
Damn where you people find so cheap devices! Seems we are in a limbo here in DE/AT . So if I get it, I should be aiming for ipq8065 devices? Just a dumb question.. does all devices that have this CPU have the same "support" or other things change?
Lot's of patience and persistence (and many lost opportunities as well), I was looking 1.5 years for a 'spare' ipq806x device (and was rather open to anything, for the right price).
I would certainly prefer ipq8065 over ipq8064, although that doesn't imply ipq8064 would be 'bad' looking at it in isolation (if the pricing works out).
There are two/ two-and-a-half layers to this question:
- same SOC, same performance and at least the same potential for the same features
- there are still quality differences between vendors, some vendors intentionally crippling the serial console (making debugging harder) and the rf components aren't necessarily of the same quality (range)
- the more common a device is among OpenWrt users, the more likely are issues noticed/ reported and fixed, for more exotic devices you might end up being the first to notice (and having to provide a fix as well) - but exotic/ EOLed devices are more likely to become a bargain (e.g. g10, tew-827dru v1, etc.)
If you want to be on the safe side, the r7800 is quite at the top - the rt3200 offers more potential, but might still face quirks here and there.