Yes, except it's using AQC113 but not Intel (which is no good since the old one needs PCI-E v2.0 x8) nor Mellanox (I was hoping ConnectX-3).
I am using the devices from Protectli for 10G
with 2x 10GbE and 4x 2.5GbE
if you really need these speeds, then there is no point in paying attention to energy efficiency. if you pay attention to this, then you should understand that instead of a 5-hour trip in a Lamborghini, you get 5 days of transfers on buses... living in hostels, eating in eateries and then long and expensive treatment....
but the choice is of course yours...
I understand what you mean, yet energy efficiency translates to a cooler and more silent operation.
I live in a 49 mp2 flat, and the router will be either on my desk, or bolted under it.
Also, you could say the same thing about any home labbing device....
I appreciate the reply, and the explanation, but not everyone concerned with efficiency is stingy or unreasonable.
But do you understand that at the stage of technology development this does not happen? You are either a pioneer or an outsider. All modern devices are more or less the same in both performance and consumption. There is no such thing that one device with the same performance consumes 7 W and another 700 W. And the difference between 677 and 701 W is simply the difference in measurement error. More noise - a more compact device due to active cooling, less noise - a larger device due to passive cooling (radiators) and also more expensive, since the same copper costs several times more than plastic fan blades)))).
But of course no one will stop you from searching for your ideal))).
Install the equipment in a common corridor and the noise will not disturb you or your neighbors)).
You are right, no reason arguing with logic.
One of my options is adding a 10g card in my lenovo tiny p330 (8700t) .
What would you do in my place, say eficient or not, what would you pick ?
I would first think about why I need it and whether it is necessary...
You can install the card in a mini PC and it is not expensive... Even if you buy with 2 ports of 10 GB.. 10-15 Euro...
But you need at least 1 more device to receive...
And not only that, so that it can also process...
So that it doesn't turn out like in the parable of the elusive Joe..
- No one can catch him?
- No, it's just that no one needs him))).
My usecase is as follows :
Main stack used for homelabbing and stuff
- one synology ds923+ with the 10gb rj45 upgrade
- one lenovo tiny p330 with proxmox(this will get the network card) , it is used for kubernetes, arr stack, jellyfin , nextcloud, etc
- one asus ax4200(current router, will be used for wifi only)
- one gaming / multimedia pc, from which i also stream using moonlight(locally to my oled 4k tv, or remote to my laptop when i visit my home town)
So, i would meed a 10gb card, and a switch.
Need is not really correct, want would probably be better
The price difference for the internet between 1gb and 10 is 2 euro, that is why i even consider this.
2 euros is not money, but the growth is not guaranteed.
You have this opportunity, but the rest of the Internet does not. 4K does not even require 100 MB, 8K requires 150 MB...
Gigabit is more than enough. But you want more than can be provided))). I understand you.
People like you are pushing technology))).
But upgrading the rest of the equipment is not 2 euros, so it is not a cheap pleasure for a dubious increase.
10 GBit/s ethernet cards are rather pointless, unless you have at least a 10 GBit/s capable switch[*] and at the very least 2-3 10 GBit/s capable systems wired to it.
There is another point to consider, especially if you consider a 2 buck delta between 1000BASE-T and 10GBASE-T, I do guess you are comparing apples and oranges here. In the sense of full prices shipped from .eu vs prices on the various .cn based platforms. It matters, because the 'cheap' 10 GBit/s options (especially the 2-port ones) there are usually old (recycled?) server ethernet chipsets (and 'fake' cards, but that isn't my primary concern here). It matters, because those a) have rather high power consumption, and with that heat dissipation, but more importantly, those are true 10GBASE-T cards, they can do 10 GBit/s or 1 GBit/s (and yes, 100 MBit/s and 10 MBit/s as well), but generally not the rather recent 'multi-gig' (non-)standards inbetween (2.5GBASE-T and 5GBASE-T), but those are actually found on many modern devices - so it would be nice if that would actually work. But if you look at 'modern' multi-gig ethernet chipsets supporting 0.01/0.1/1/2.5/5/10 GBit/s, the prices tend to be quite different (as in ~50 EUR from .cn or >90 EUR from .eu) - obviously your switch needs to match as well.
Independent of that, I would advise against virtualization for your router, it does make your situation a lot easier and more secure with a dedicated system as router, with bare-iron access to the ethernet cards. Virtualization if totally fine for your services behind the router, but resist the urge to overload your router with non-routing tasks, just because you have a few cycles to spare.
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[*] and I wouldn't even consider any switch with less than at least 8 ports to deserve that name, as you already lose two ports from the get-go, one to the router uplink, another to slow-devices trunk port of your legacy devices/ switch)
Not true, technology evolves fast enough that even the same 7-10W N100/N305 is a few times faster than the same 7-10W Celeron N3350 a few years ago, and OP is not asking for such device to route something like 25/40/100Gbps, for 10G the N100 system is possible which draws very few power.
Unless you are direct connecting all devices to router ports, if you have a switch that supports multi-gig, the problem is already gone because the uplink 10G already matches what your old cards negotiating. The old Mellanox ConnectX-3 dual port SFP+ is consuming ~10W which I don't think it's "high power consumption", the known bad one is Intel X540, and the problem of it was "RJ45 Ethernet port", as uplink just use SFP+ with optical or DAC then you won't see it as a problem.
Exactly those are the 'cheap' (~15 EUR from .cn) ones I was referring to.
It's for someone who really wants Ethernet RJ45....but the SFP+ counterpart X520 is a lot less heat and good as well (I have it).
Right now there are also alternatives coming into play, for example the latest CWWK 2 x 10G + 2 x 2.5G router is using AQC113 for RJ45 10G multi-gig, not a server grade card but it should be OK and not that expensive.
I wrote about modern devices, but of course... The first generation I7 and the 14th generation I7 are completely different in terms of energy consumption and performance))).
If someone want to upgrade to 10gig net and infrastructure then what is the point of making excuse to stop him/ her? This type of behaviour is stupid... If i'd listen to this type stupid people in the past i'd never have what i have now and i'm happy with it looking straight to upgrade to 40/100gig. Ciao.