GL.iNET Flint 3 (GL-BE9300) discussions

Really depends on the particular use case. If you just want a stable router that has still okish speeds even without offloading then it's definitely an issue when QCA releases firmware that suddenly crashes on some devices and you don't know if they'll ever fix it as QCA is almost completely unresponsive to bug reports from the open source community concerning AP stuff and there's also still the ath11k multicast issue that even occurs in the NSS variant.

But yeah unusable offloading is just another reason to stay away from it

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Ok, I will make an assumption here, because I do not think the naming suffix "BE9300" is a coincidence in the examples below:

  1. TP Link Archer BE550 (BE9300) Wifi-7 router
  2. Mercusys MR47BE (BE9300) Wifi-7 router (effectively the same as the TP-link above)
  3. GL-BE9300 (Flint3)

Both routers #1 & #2 are confirmed to be Qualcomm-based (GPL code of TP-link, Internal images of TP-Link on FCC ID report, and Mercusys teardown here).

So based on this assumption, I suppose that Flint 3 will follow the same platform too, unless there is another clear reason to use "BE9300" as a naming convention too.

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and lack even the most basic checksum offloading without it, leading to bad performance and weird bugs).

I was a victim of this exactly, as well as weird 802.11s crashes and for these two reasons, I've made the decision to stay with MediaTek for the time being. I'll likely be skipping this generation. I do love my MT6000 though!

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Not sure I'd skip wifi 7 completely, but will hold off a while. If this target isn't the one we'll see something surface soon enough with Filogic 880, and by then mt76 will keep maturing for wifi 7. Maybe another year but who knows, MT6000 is great for now.

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Sorry, I should've worded that better :slight_smile: I meant I'll probably skip the GL-BE9300 if it is in fact Qualcomm-based in favor of a Filogic 880/MT7988 alternative.

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It will be a Qualcomm IPQ53xx


will come with kernel 5.4.213

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That's not good :pensive::pensive::pensive:

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QSDK then for their Release FW...

Good enough to get a device to market, which is essential for GL-iNet...

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I’m surprised because they know how important the OpenWrt support is, that’s one of the reasons the Flint 2 is popular and many OpenWrt fans are buying it. I wouldn’t be surprised so see a Flint 3 “Pro” version based on Filogic in the future.
Their new Slate 7 is also based on IPQ I guess?
:pensive:

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GL-INET is still a business, if you look at Mediatek side, currently there is NO PRODUCT with WiFi 7 on market, not even a closed source solution one, they can only either 1) wait for the support to come up, or 2) adopt any available solution and release new product. It's easy to see them going for #2, I'm actually not surprised when I know it's Qualcomm based.

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TP-Link BE805 is MT7988. They do exist!

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I'm afraid they are :person_facepalming:

Maybe the slump in sales they'll see for Flint 3 vs Flint 2 will convince them to use Mediatek again in future (I was a sure thing customer for Flint 3 until it was revealed they'll be using Qualcomm, and now I'll probably be advising others to avoid it based on my experience with a recent highly-specced Qualcomm-driven router).

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A GL.iNet contractor dropped a subtle hint about a more powerful model sometime 2025.

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But if you look at the current price of the BE805 compared to the BE9300, I have yet to see GL offer something for around $500

more powerful devices coming (any) "next year", me shocked.

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:thinking: Interesting.....

But, about the Flint 3 that's going to be a hard pass for me, I'm loving my Flint 2 with mediatek SOC and 4.x.x-op24 stock firmware :call_me_hand:

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still costs 4x more than the T-56...

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True. Interesting. Zyxel T-56 = Zyxel EX5601-T1, and pretty much has same hardware as Flint 2.

However, looks more difficult to find in several regions, other than NL.

Also, I wonder if the external antennas are a significant difference/factor and can (partially) explain the price difference.

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Seller will ship across EU, if you ask them.