Add ASUS RT-AX53U as access point & DHCP server with OpenWRT to replace Livebox 6

Hello,

Since many months, it happens that DHCP server of Livebox 6 doesn't work, as some devices got IP 169.254.xxx.xxx and no access too Internet anymore.

To resolve this problem, I have to reboot my Livebox 6. I suppose it's a problem linked to Livebox with many devices.

Could it resolves my problem if I buy ASUS RT-AX53U to use it as access point & DHCP server with OpenWRT to replace Livebox 6 Wifi and DHCP server?

And if it's the case, will I be able to create on it 3 different SSID (for 2.4, 5 Ghz and one for 802.11ax?

And as I do with my Livebox could I be able to have mac adress list of devices which could be authorized to connect by WIFI on it?

Thank you.

Regards.

Welcome to the community!

Is this OpenWrt related?

Using any other working device without issues should theoretically solve your issue with a broken device.

FYI:

  • 802.11ax is WiFi protocol
  • 2.5 and 5.4 GHz are frequency bands used for consumer WiFi

Nonetheless, yes, the ASUS RT-AX53U is a dual-band (i.e. 2.4 and 5.4 GHx) device that is capable of 802.11ax. Additionally, you can create multiple SSIDs on each band.

Yes, but as I'm sure you're already aware, this should not be used as a security feature.

Hope this helps.

Bizarre cette histoire avec la LiveBox 6

J' ai cela depuis qu'elle est disponible , donc pplus de deux ans, et je n' ai jamais rencontré de problèmes avec le DHCP

Maintenant remplacer une LiveBox 6 avec la fibre en direct reliée au boitier il va falloir faire très fort

Sinon:

Solution 1 : J' espère qaue vous avez tenté un reset complet

Solution 2: Demander un échange en prétextant par exemple qu' elle ne s' allume plus du tout et en l' ayant débranchée lors du test pour qu' Orange ne la voit plus

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Strange this story with the LiveBox 6

I've had this since it became available, so more than two years, and I've never had any problems with DHCP.

Now replace a LiveBox 6 with the direct fiber connected to the box, you will have to be very strong

Otherwise:

Solution 1: Hope you tried a full reset

Solution 2: Request an exchange on the pretext, for example, that it no longer lights up at all and having unplugged it during the test so that Orange no longer sees it

No it's an actual problem that I have and for the moment, I only have Livebox 6.

ok :slight_smile:

Ha yes ok, so it means there is no frequencies proper to 802.11 ax?

Ha yes ok, but it's better than no security no?
What would you advise me to do for best practices?

Thank you.

ha yes ok, en fait je voulais pas la remplacer mais juste ne plus utiliser le serveur DHCP et le Wifi pour utiliser ceux d'un Asus que j'achèterai mais juste pour m'en servir en tant qu'Access Point et serveur DHCP.

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ha yes ok, in fact I didn't want to replace it but just no longer use the DHCP server and Wifi to use those of an Asus that I will buy but just to use it as an Access Point and DHCP server.

Non j'avais déjà du en faire un au premier branchement, à cause de la restauration automatique, j'avoue que je n'ai pas envie de tout me retaper :frowning:

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No, I already had to make one on the first connection, because of the automatic restore, I admit that I don't want to retype everything :frowning:

Je vais voir, j'avoue que c'est casse tête aussi lol. Ce qui est étrange c'est qu'en cherchant sur le net, je vois que d'autres personnes ont eu ce soucis avec d'anciennes livebox et moi avec les anciennes, j'avais déjà eu d'autres soucis mais pas celui-là.

Je vous tiendrai au courant.

Merci.

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I'll see, I admit it's a headache too lol. What is strange is that by searching on the net, I see that other people have had this problem with old liveboxes and me with the old ones, I had already had other problems but not this one. there.

I'll keep you up-to-date.

THANKS.

All consumer bands (e.g. 2.4, 5.4 and 6.4 GHz) allow 802.11ax. The Asus RT-AX53U has 2.4 and 5.4 GHz (i.e. it's a Dual Band WiFi router/AP).

  • WAP2; or
  • WPA3

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The preferred language in the OpenWrt forum is english.
When writing in your native language, please always provide an english translation.
This way other users all around the world can take part in the discussion and possibly benefit from the outcome, without having to use a translator.

Thanks! :slight_smile:

French language for French user !!!

Strange this story with the LiveBox 6

I've had this since it became available, so over two years, and I've never had any issues with DHCP.

Now replace a LiveBox 6 with the direct fiber connected to the box, you will have to be very strong

Otherwise :

Solution 1: Hope you tried a full reset

Solution 2: Request an exchange on the pretext, for example, that it no longer lights up at all and having unplugged it during the test so that Orange no longer sees it

For me the OpenWrt WIFI driver is much less stable & efficient than that of the LiveBox 6

I forgot: television with WIFI and TV UHD boxes will be frankly bad if you can do it
Has the limit use only the OpenWrt as a separate DHCP server

ha yes ok, and so for you for which reason you bought another router with Openwrt, and wich router do you use ?
And now, do you continue to use it even if WIFI is less stable than your Livebox 6?

Thank you.

I am 77 years old and I pass the time as I can and I experiment OpenWrt with boxes when they are cheap

For WIFI OpenWrt it does not work in STA/AP and WDS is incompatible with all LiveBox

At the moment I am using the LiveBox 6 as wifi master

I have Zyxel Wsm20 boxes in STA/AP but with OEM Mediatek MTK drivers as well as a Belkin RT1800 which has USB in STA/AP for samba & USB HHD or SDD

I use 4 * UHD TV Box in WIFI !!!

ha yes ok :slight_smile:

Which of the following configurations are you trying to do?

  • a) main router > wifi > Asus RT-AX53U (OpenWrt) > cat cable > Livebox 6 > wifi / cat cable > clients
  • b) main router > wifi > Asus RT-AX53U (OpenWrt) > wifi > Livebox 6 > wifi / cat cable > clients
  • c) main router > cat cable > Asus RT-AX53U (OpenWrt) > cat cable > Livebox 6 > wifi / cat cable > clients
  • d) main router > cat cable > Asus RT-AX53U (OpenWrt) > wifi > Livebox 6 > wifi / cat cable > clients
  • e) Livebox 6 > wifi > Asus RT-AX53U (OpenWrt) > wifi > Clients
  • f) Livebox 6 > wifi > Asus RT-AX53U (OpenWrt) > cat cable > Clients
  • g) Livebox 6 > cat cable > Asus RT-AX53U (OpenWrt) > wifi > Clients
  • h) Livebox 6 > cat cable > Asus RT-AX53U (OpenWrt) > cat cable > Clients

You say the dhcp server of your livebox 6 is broken, so I suppose configurations e, f, g, h will maybe not work, as those very much depend on what your LIvebox 6 broadcasts. Now, if your livebox 6 is simply wrongly configured, then it would be a different matter, but this is a OpenWrt forum, so you better turn to your livebox vendor for help about configuring said device. If your hypothesis of livebox 6's dhcp server breakíng down from too many connected devices, then yes an accesspoint with own dhcp server might be of help and configurations e, f, g or h could help, but it would be risky to buy a new device just to discover it still does not work.

If your Livebox 6 does support WDS (and its DHCP works fine), then https://openwrt.org/docs/guide-user/network/wifi/atheroswds will work for configurations a, b, e and f.

If your Livebox 6 does not support WDS, you might be forced to use relayd or kmod-trelay and I am not completely sure, but I believe following guides could work:

Since the OP is mostly interested about ways to replace the router supplied by his ISP (Orange), I suggest checking the following forum which specializes on precisely that :

I just read a few messages and you're in luck : there's even a knowledgeable Orange employee posting precise settings (particularly dhcp4+dhcp6) to make it work with their network. So you can expect good reliability.

VF : je viens de voir qu'un employé Orance y poste des informations précises sur les réglages (particulièrement dhcp) à adopter pour fonctionner avec leur réseau. C'est exigent, mais au moins c'est détaillé donc on peut espérer une parfaite fiabilité une fois bien paramétré.

-> StochasticKarma

I know this site ( i am french )

Last LiveBox installation are without ONT
The fiber > 2 GHz is directly connected in the LiveBox 6

anyway I don't know anyone who has DHCP problems with livebox 6
either she has a problem and exchanges
either there is a network problem somewhere
and in this case the ASUS router will therefore be useless

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for your infos the Livebox6 is by SagemCom